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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:01 AM)stever20 Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:01 PM)payday Wrote: When ESPiN starts comparing those blind records...one of their first will be WSU vs x. With WSU showing no Top 50 road wins. Neutral court don’t count. Or UC can add a Top 30. And I didn’t add it to Cincy’s three Top 60.
I don't think top 50 road wins mean as much as it used to. Tier 1 now is top 75 road wins. Folks need to stop focusing so much on top 50- that's a really meaningless grouping now quite frankly.
Cincy's problem is they scheduled/got scheduled 4 of the 30 worst teams in college basketball OOC. If those are just reasonable dreg games, Cincy's resume looks a whole hell of a lot different right now.
Remaining tier 1 road games-
Wichita 4
Cincy 2
(both do also have 81 SMU left)
Thank you for a voice of reason.
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:01 AM)stever20 Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:01 PM)payday Wrote: When ESPiN starts comparing those blind records...one of their first will be WSU vs x. With WSU showing no Top 50 road wins. Neutral court don’t count. Or UC can add a Top 30. And I didn’t add it to Cincy’s three Top 60.
I don't think top 50 road wins mean as much as it used to. Tier 1 now is top 75 road wins. Folks need to stop focusing so much on top 50- that's a really meaningless grouping now quite frankly.
Cincy's problem is they scheduled/got scheduled 4 of the 30 worst teams in college basketball OOC. If those are just reasonable dreg games, Cincy's resume looks a whole hell of a lot different right now.
Remaining tier 1 road games-
Wichita 4
Cincy 2
(both do also have 81 SMU left)
Cincy 3-1 vs Tier 1. WSU 0fer
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:50 PM)pvtlamb Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:48 PM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:40 PM)pvtlamb Wrote: Let's talk after the WSU game @Houston.
Cincy scoring 15 points in a half, I don't care where, makes me just a teeny bit less concerned about the Bearkitties.
Hmm, you have no chance at beating Cincinnati on the road so you're probably right at looking to the Houston game. Honestly though that's probably an L. I know they're collapsing but their schedule is so good maybe you can sneak a win against Temple and it'll be higher than UConn.
No chance? LOL. The best road team in the NCAA has no chance @ NKU. Right.
Your best win on the road is UConn who is no where near the top 50. Best road team in the NCAA bwahahahaha
You got 4-6 away games at way better teams than Uconn. You probably lose 4, Cincy, Houston, SMU, Memphis
His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
It's just tough looking up at the new kid on the block. I get it.
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:50 PM)pvtlamb Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:48 PM)TU4ever Wrote: Hmm, you have no chance at beating Cincinnati on the road so you're probably right at looking to the Houston game. Honestly though that's probably an L. I know they're collapsing but their schedule is so good maybe you can sneak a win against Temple and it'll be higher than UConn.
No chance? LOL. The best road team in the NCAA has no chance @ NKU. Right.
Your best win on the road is UConn who is no where near the top 50. Best road team in the NCAA bwahahahaha
You got 4-6 away games at way better teams than Uconn. You probably lose 4, Cincy, Houston, SMU, Memphis
His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
See...predictable
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:50 PM)pvtlamb Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:48 PM)TU4ever Wrote: Hmm, you have no chance at beating Cincinnati on the road so you're probably right at looking to the Houston game. Honestly though that's probably an L. I know they're collapsing but their schedule is so good maybe you can sneak a win against Temple and it'll be higher than UConn.
No chance? LOL. The best road team in the NCAA has no chance @ NKU. Right.
Your best win on the road is UConn who is no where near the top 50. Best road team in the NCAA bwahahahaha
You got 4-6 away games at way better teams than Uconn. You probably lose 4, Cincy, Houston, SMU, Memphis
His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
I don't make up the stats. You can ***** about conference affiliation but all that was posted was 100% FACT.
Carry on.
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:05 AM)shockerfan1313 Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:50 PM)pvtlamb Wrote: No chance? LOL. The best road team in the NCAA has no chance @ NKU. Right.
Your best win on the road is UConn who is no where near the top 50. Best road team in the NCAA bwahahahaha
You got 4-6 away games at way better teams than Uconn. You probably lose 4, Cincy, Houston, SMU, Memphis
His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
See...predictable
You called it.
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-16-2018 11:58 PM)shockerfan1313 Wrote: Wow....just wow.....lol. It is hilarious how much people are losing sleep praying WSU tanks.
No chance at Cincy, definitely gonna lose at Houston.....lmao.
Just gets better and better.
It'd be more helpful if you directly addressed the two people who you're referring to, rather than making such a dramatic blanket statement.
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:05 AM)shockerfan1313 Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:50 PM)pvtlamb Wrote: No chance? LOL. The best road team in the NCAA has no chance @ NKU. Right.
Your best win on the road is UConn who is no where near the top 50. Best road team in the NCAA bwahahahaha
You got 4-6 away games at way better teams than Uconn. You probably lose 4, Cincy, Houston, SMU, Memphis
His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
See...predictable
Exactly, I mean who doesn't expect the Globetrotters to win against the Generals? It's not a fair contest, if you didn't beat those MVC teams I would be worried. When was your last tier 1 road win? Two years ago three? How many have you even played?
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:09 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:05 AM)shockerfan1313 Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote: Your best win on the road is UConn who is no where near the top 50. Best road team in the NCAA bwahahahaha
You got 4-6 away games at way better teams than Uconn. You probably lose 4, Cincy, Houston, SMU, Memphis
His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
See...predictable
Exactly, I mean who doesn't expect the Globetrotters to win against the Generals? It's not a fair contest, if you didn't beat those MVC teams I would be worried. When was your last tier 1 road win? Two years ago three? How many have you even played?
So basically we did exactly what a top 10-15 program SHOULD do with the schedule we had? Thanks for agreeing.
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:09 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:05 AM)shockerfan1313 Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote: Your best win on the road is UConn who is no where near the top 50. Best road team in the NCAA bwahahahaha
You got 4-6 away games at way better teams than Uconn. You probably lose 4, Cincy, Houston, SMU, Memphis
His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
See...predictable
Exactly, I mean who doesn't expect the Globetrotters to win against the Generals? It's not a fair contest, if you didn't beat those MVC teams I would be worried. When was your last tier 1 road win? Two years ago three? How many have you even played?
How many NCAA wins has Tulsa AND Cincinnati combined for in the last 5 years?
How many NCAA wins has Wichita State had from the High School Basketball Conference the last 5 years?
Any questions?
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:09 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:05 AM)shockerfan1313 Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote: Your best win on the road is UConn who is no where near the top 50. Best road team in the NCAA bwahahahaha
You got 4-6 away games at way better teams than Uconn. You probably lose 4, Cincy, Houston, SMU, Memphis
His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
See...predictable
Exactly, I mean who doesn't expect the Globetrotters to win against the Generals? It's not a fair contest, if you didn't beat those MVC teams I would be worried. When was your last tier 1 road win? Two years ago three? How many have you even played?
On FIRE!
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:06 AM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:50 PM)pvtlamb Wrote: No chance? LOL. The best road team in the NCAA has no chance @ NKU. Right.
Your best win on the road is UConn who is no where near the top 50. Best road team in the NCAA bwahahahaha
You got 4-6 away games at way better teams than Uconn. You probably lose 4, Cincy, Houston, SMU, Memphis
His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
I don't make up the stats. You can ***** about conference affiliation but all that was posted was 100% FACT.
Carry on.
We established earlier that you can't differentiate between fact and opinion. Remember you called out payday about facts but you were upset about his opinion?
I would say going 17-0 vs teams on the road but all ranked at 150+ is not as good as going 16-2 vs teams almost exclusively in the top 100.
You didn't say the team with the longest road winning streak, you said the best NCAA road team. You think the best NCAA road team doesn't have a win vs a top 75 team in almost two years?
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:13 AM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:09 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:05 AM)shockerfan1313 Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
See...predictable
Exactly, I mean who doesn't expect the Globetrotters to win against the Generals? It's not a fair contest, if you didn't beat those MVC teams I would be worried. When was your last tier 1 road win? Two years ago three? How many have you even played?
How many NCAA wins has Tulsa AND Cincinnati combined for in the last 5 years?
How many NCAA wins has Wichita State had from the High School Basketball Conference the last 5 years?
Any questions?
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01-17-2018 12:17 AM |
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:16 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:06 AM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:54 PM)TU4ever Wrote: Your best win on the road is UConn who is no where near the top 50. Best road team in the NCAA bwahahahaha
You got 4-6 away games at way better teams than Uconn. You probably lose 4, Cincy, Houston, SMU, Memphis
His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
I don't make up the stats. You can ***** about conference affiliation but all that was posted was 100% FACT.
Carry on.
We established earlier that you can't differentiate between fact and opinion. Remember you called out payday about facts but you were upset about his opinion?
I would say going 17-0 vs teams on the road but all ranked at 150+ is not as good as going 16-2 vs teams almost exclusively in the top 100.
You didn't say the team with the longest road winning streak, you said the best NCAA road team. You think the best NCAA road team doesn't have a win vs a top 75 team in almost two years?
I officially give up. Too much brain dead going on here.
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:11 AM)shockerfan1313 Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:09 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:05 AM)shockerfan1313 Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
See...predictable
Exactly, I mean who doesn't expect the Globetrotters to win against the Generals? It's not a fair contest, if you didn't beat those MVC teams I would be worried. When was your last tier 1 road win? Two years ago three? How many have you even played?
So basically we did exactly what a top 10-15 program SHOULD do with the schedule we had? Thanks for agreeing.
Well considering we weren't discussing the subject I'm glad we can agree on that separate issue.
Now whether or not you are a good road team (the best in NCAA as asserted), have a good road win this year, or will have one I am going to assume we disagree.
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:17 AM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:16 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:06 AM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
I don't make up the stats. You can ***** about conference affiliation but all that was posted was 100% FACT.
Carry on.
We established earlier that you can't differentiate between fact and opinion. Remember you called out payday about facts but you were upset about his opinion?
I would say going 17-0 vs teams on the road but all ranked at 150+ is not as good as going 16-2 vs teams almost exclusively in the top 100.
You didn't say the team with the longest road winning streak, you said the best NCAA road team. You think the best NCAA road team doesn't have a win vs a top 75 team in almost two years?
I officially give up. Too much brain dead going on here.
Good decision
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:18 AM)payday Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:17 AM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:16 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:06 AM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
I don't make up the stats. You can ***** about conference affiliation but all that was posted was 100% FACT.
Carry on.
We established earlier that you can't differentiate between fact and opinion. Remember you called out payday about facts but you were upset about his opinion?
I would say going 17-0 vs teams on the road but all ranked at 150+ is not as good as going 16-2 vs teams almost exclusively in the top 100.
You didn't say the team with the longest road winning streak, you said the best NCAA road team. You think the best NCAA road team doesn't have a win vs a top 75 team in almost two years?
I officially give up. Too much brain dead going on here.
Good decision
Oh not with you though. I like playing with the jellyfish.
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:18 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:11 AM)shockerfan1313 Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:09 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:05 AM)shockerfan1313 Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
See...predictable
Exactly, I mean who doesn't expect the Globetrotters to win against the Generals? It's not a fair contest, if you didn't beat those MVC teams I would be worried. When was your last tier 1 road win? Two years ago three? How many have you even played?
So basically we did exactly what a top 10-15 program SHOULD do with the schedule we had? Thanks for agreeing.
Well considering we weren't discussing the subject I'm glad we can agree on that separate issue.
Now whether or not you have a good road win this year or will get one I am going to assume we disagree.
Weren't discussing it? You brought up the MVC, so therefore you were discussing it!
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RE: 1/15 Bracketology
(01-17-2018 12:13 AM)ShockerFever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:09 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:05 AM)shockerfan1313 Wrote: (01-17-2018 12:04 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (01-16-2018 11:57 PM)ShockerFever Wrote: His best road team reference was to the fact that WSU currently has the longest road winning streak in the nation.
Settle down hater.
Lol against who? Mvc last year and 3 maybe top 100 teams this year? Those aren't away games they're the equivalent of Globetrotter winning streaks.
See...predictable
Exactly, I mean who doesn't expect the Globetrotters to win against the Generals? It's not a fair contest, if you didn't beat those MVC teams I would be worried. When was your last tier 1 road win? Two years ago three? How many have you even played?
How many NCAA wins has Tulsa AND Cincinnati combined for in the last 5 years?
How many NCAA wins has Wichita State had from the High School Basketball Conference the last 5 years?
Any questions?
Yes, in overall comparison of programs where does wsu rank in the conference?
Are they better than Cincy?
UConn?
Memphis?
Temple?
Houston?
Which league is better the AAC with national champions and top 25 programs or the high school conference you all pine for?
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