(09-16-2021 02:38 PM)BigEastMike Wrote:  8 MWC teams to form a western division with the remaining 8 AAC as the eastern division. Boise, Fresno, SD St, CSU, Air Force, UNLV and two others with navy and Air Force FB only sets up a 14 team bball conference

Where is Air Force going to play the rest of their sports?

(09-16-2021 04:23 PM)Aztec Since 88 Wrote:  I think ESPN and Aresco are working together on this, they want to poach from non-ESPN properties. The MW is with FOX and CBS. This way it will give ESPN more late night content and will help solidify the AAC as the 6th best league. I am still not sure the MW teams go without certain guarantees on the value and deal of the TV contract, particularly how many games will be on ESPN+. We shall see.

I think one of the two have to be involved (Boise or AFA) for the AAC to bother with a western expansion.

It could be Army, CSU, AFA and UAB for the 12.

West: CSU, AFA, Tulsa, SMU, Tulane, Navy
East: Army, Temple, ECU, USF, UAB, Memphis

In a span of mere weeks, the AAC has gone from looking like having a virtually guaranteed position in an expanded playoff annually, to potentially absorbing the left-behinds of the Big 12 in order to create a 5th power conference, to seeing the Big 12 raid them of three of their top brands and programs, to pursuing MW schools to raid (which will undoubtedly lead nowhere, as those schools weren't interested in the AAC when they had a full 12-member set-up and a guaranteed BCS access spot), to (likely) looking adding four or more promotions from the same conference a majority of the league was called-up from - C-USA.

The tides turn fast in college realignment. Predators can turn to prey overnight.

(09-16-2021 04:52 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  In a span of mere weeks, the AAC has gone from looking like having a virtually guaranteed position in an expanded playoff annually, to potentially absorbing the left-behinds of the Big 12 in order to create a 5th power conference, to seeing the Big 12 raid them of three of their top brands and programs, to pursuing MW schools to raid (which will undoubtedly lead nowhere, as those schools weren't interested in the AAC when they had a full 12-member set-up and a guaranteed BCS access spot), to (likely) looking adding four or more promotions from the same conference a majority of the league was called-up from - C-USA.

The tides turn fast in college realignment. Predators can turn to prey overnight.

I recall a subset of Tulsa/Tulane/Temple posters who were loud and boisterous the AAC would be picking off the Big XII. Like the Boise guy adamant that the Broncos joining the Big XII would be leaked soon, they disappeared in a hurry.

(09-16-2021 02:30 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 01:48 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 01:36 PM)LaTex14 Wrote:  But if the AAC couldn’t get Boise with UH, UC, and UCF. Why would they get them now?

Aresco chasing after MWC teams is like English soccer team X who lets it leak that they are "monitoring" several of the top young players in Europe. They won't sign them, but it puffs up the image of the team to make it look like those players might choose team X.

Is there even one candidate other than UAB east of the Texas state line that wouldn't make Memphis, Navy, SMU, Temple, Tulane and USF grimace?

Western teams aren’t coming. UAB is the most well rounded, but their are other solid choices. Marshall, Southern Miss, UTSA, North Texas, and FAU all either have a very good football tradition or tremendous football upside.
If the conference needs good basketball and solid football WKU is out their. Hell UMass is out there with a great basketball tradition and a huge tv market.

This aren’t perfect candidates, but these are programs with either good tradition or major upside.

UAB was dead in the water in 2014. In 6 years they made themselves head and shoulders above the others as a AAC candidate. Imagine what the programs listed above could do in the right conference

(09-16-2021 04:52 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  In a span of mere weeks, the AAC has gone from looking like having a virtually guaranteed position in an expanded playoff annually, to potentially absorbing the left-behinds of the Big 12 in order to create a 5th power conference, to seeing the Big 12 raid them of three of their top brands and programs, to pursuing MW schools to raid (which will undoubtedly lead nowhere, as those schools weren't interested in the AAC when they had a full 12-member set-up and a guaranteed BCS access spot), to (likely) looking adding four or more promotions from the same conference a majority of the league was called-up from - C-USA.

The tides turn fast in college realignment. Predators can turn to prey overnight.

LOL, only simpletons thought the AAC would raid / merge with the B12.

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Now Wyoming is playing defense.

Wyoming AD Tom Burman doesn't see benefit of MWC programs leaving for AAC

“It makes everyone nervous because obviously now you’ve got three schools going (to the Big 12) from the American,” Burman said during a recent interview with the Star-Tribune. “I don’t think the American offers, without those three schools, are anything that benefits anyone in the Mountain West. But it wouldn’t surprise me if they were talking to some schools.”

“I clearly don’t see any value for a Mountain West team to play in that league as we go forward, but that’s someone else’s decision to make,” Burman said. “So I don’t think there will be a trickle-down effect, but this business is weird and sometimes illogical. As ADs, we are talking about it, but sometimes not totally transparently.”

(09-16-2021 05:27 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 04:52 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  In a span of mere weeks, the AAC has gone from looking like having a virtually guaranteed position in an expanded playoff annually, to potentially absorbing the left-behinds of the Big 12 in order to create a 5th power conference, to seeing the Big 12 raid them of three of their top brands and programs, to pursuing MW schools to raid (which will undoubtedly lead nowhere, as those schools weren't interested in the AAC when they had a full 12-member set-up and a guaranteed BCS access spot), to (likely) looking adding four or more promotions from the same conference a majority of the league was called-up from - C-USA.

The tides turn fast in college realignment. Predators can turn to prey overnight.

LOL, only simpletons thought the AAC would raid / merge with the B12.

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Same people that think MW teams are going to join the AAC.

(09-16-2021 05:28 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 05:27 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 04:52 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  In a span of mere weeks, the AAC has gone from looking like having a virtually guaranteed position in an expanded playoff annually, to potentially absorbing the left-behinds of the Big 12 in order to create a 5th power conference, to seeing the Big 12 raid them of three of their top brands and programs, to pursuing MW schools to raid (which will undoubtedly lead nowhere, as those schools weren't interested in the AAC when they had a full 12-member set-up and a guaranteed BCS access spot), to (likely) looking adding four or more promotions from the same conference a majority of the league was called-up from - C-USA.

The tides turn fast in college realignment. Predators can turn to prey overnight.

LOL, only simpletons thought the AAC would raid / merge with the B12.

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Same people that think MW teams are going to join the AAC.

Meh, this at least has some semblance of a lateral move. I have serious doubts they can do it with only 4 MWC schools. If I'm a UTEP or NMSU fan I hope this happens.

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The clear advantage Mountain West teams would have joining The American would be more exposure in the East. A school like San Diego State, for example, doesn’t get the national recognition it deserves because it isn’t in The PAC.

There is a strong Eastern bias in college sports, especially football.

Membership in an eastern conference would give the invited schools a huge advantage over other G5 western teams.

(09-16-2021 05:28 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 05:27 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 04:52 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  In a span of mere weeks, the AAC has gone from looking like having a virtually guaranteed position in an expanded playoff annually, to potentially absorbing the left-behinds of the Big 12 in order to create a 5th power conference, to seeing the Big 12 raid them of three of their top brands and programs, to pursuing MW schools to raid (which will undoubtedly lead nowhere, as those schools weren't interested in the AAC when they had a full 12-member set-up and a guaranteed BCS access spot), to (likely) looking adding four or more promotions from the same conference a majority of the league was called-up from - C-USA.

The tides turn fast in college realignment. Predators can turn to prey overnight.

LOL, only simpletons thought the AAC would raid / merge with the B12.

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Same people that think MW teams are going to join the AAC.

You have that backwards. The yahoos that thought the AAC would punch up thought the MWC would poach the AAC. Just like some AAC fans, you're thinking that you're strong as long as you stick together. What you don't know it that some of you, while being agreeable and smiling, are having back room talks about moving up, because teams always move up when invited. And you shouldn't blame them.

CBS Sports reports that AAC is trying to poach SDSU, Boise State, CSU and Air Force to cripple the Mountain West. My sources tell me they won't take the bait, realizing they're better off in an intact Mountain West (and don't want to send their tennis teams to East Carolina).

https://twitter.com/sdutzeigler/status/1...19305?s=21

(09-16-2021 05:54 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 05:28 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 05:27 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 04:52 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  In a span of mere weeks, the AAC has gone from looking like having a virtually guaranteed position in an expanded playoff annually, to potentially absorbing the left-behinds of the Big 12 in order to create a 5th power conference, to seeing the Big 12 raid them of three of their top brands and programs, to pursuing MW schools to raid (which will undoubtedly lead nowhere, as those schools weren't interested in the AAC when they had a full 12-member set-up and a guaranteed BCS access spot), to (likely) looking adding four or more promotions from the same conference a majority of the league was called-up from - C-USA.

The tides turn fast in college realignment. Predators can turn to prey overnight.

LOL, only simpletons thought the AAC would raid / merge with the B12.

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Same people that think MW teams are going to join the AAC.

Meh, this at least has some semblance of a lateral move. I have serious doubts they can do it with only 4 MWC schools. If I'm a UTEP or NMSU fan I hope this happens.

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Yes sir.

We know another of the 10 candidates.

https://mobile.twitter.com/dennisdoddcbs...gr%5Etweet

(09-16-2021 01:36 PM)LaTex14 Wrote:  I posted it else where but, we already knew the AAC would target the MWC.
But if the AAC couldn’t get Boise with UH, UC, and UCF. Why would they get them now? Especially with B-12 expansion looming again.

If the AAC sits around for the MWC. I could see The Belt making a move for UAB, LaTech, Marshall, and Southern Miss.

If the AAC gets Markets, and The Sunbelt gets football schools. It’ll be interesting.

Hate to break this to you, LaTech will never get an SBC invite.

(09-16-2021 06:30 PM)LaTex14 Wrote:  CBS Sports reports that AAC is trying to poach SDSU, Boise State, CSU and Air Force to cripple the Mountain West. My sources tell me they won't take the bait, realizing they're better off in an intact Mountain West (and don't want to send their tennis teams to East Carolina).

https://twitter.com/sdutzeigler/status/1...19305?s=21

When dudes with 50 posts because they have to keep on creating new accounts refer to "my sources"

If I'm reading correctly the top non MWC candidates are UAB and FAU in the East and UTSA and N Texas in the west.

I find it incredibly difficult to believe they would choose N Texas over Rice

(09-16-2021 07:20 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 06:30 PM)LaTex14 Wrote:  CBS Sports reports that AAC is trying to poach SDSU, Boise State, CSU and Air Force to cripple the Mountain West. My sources tell me they won't take the bait, realizing they're better off in an intact Mountain West (and don't want to send their tennis teams to East Carolina).

https://twitter.com/sdutzeigler/status/1...19305?s=21

When dudes with 50 posts because they have to keep on creating new accounts refer to "my sources"

I’m quoting the tweet

(09-16-2021 07:04 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 01:36 PM)LaTex14 Wrote:  I posted it else where but, we already knew the AAC would target the MWC.
But if the AAC couldn’t get Boise with UH, UC, and UCF. Why would they get them now? Especially with B-12 expansion looming again.

If the AAC sits around for the MWC. I could see The Belt making a move for UAB, LaTech, Marshall, and Southern Miss.

If the AAC gets Markets, and The Sunbelt gets football schools. It’ll be interesting.

Hate to break this to you, LaTech will never get an SBC invite.

I’m not a LaTech fan, I like them cause I have some family there.
But I support an AAC Texas and C-USA Texas team. Shouldn’t be tough go put together.

(09-16-2021 06:09 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 05:28 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 05:27 PM)b2b Wrote:  

(09-16-2021 04:52 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  In a span of mere weeks, the AAC has gone from looking like having a virtually guaranteed position in an expanded playoff annually, to potentially absorbing the left-behinds of the Big 12 in order to create a 5th power conference, to seeing the Big 12 raid them of three of their top brands and programs, to pursuing MW schools to raid (which will undoubtedly lead nowhere, as those schools weren't interested in the AAC when they had a full 12-member set-up and a guaranteed BCS access spot), to (likely) looking adding four or more promotions from the same conference a majority of the league was called-up from - C-USA.

The tides turn fast in college realignment. Predators can turn to prey overnight.

LOL, only simpletons thought the AAC would raid / merge with the B12.

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Same people that think MW teams are going to join the AAC.

You have that backwards. The yahoos that thought the AAC would punch up thought the MWC would poach the AAC. Just like some AAC fans, you're thinking that you're strong as long as you stick together. What you don't know it that some of you, while being agreeable and smiling, are having back room talks about moving up, because teams always move up when invited. And you shouldn't blame them.

The money isnt there. If it was MW teams would jump.

Its just not there. Especially after UH, UCF and UC left.

Memphis, SMU and USF dont move the needle.