(11-27-2013 05:42 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Can we trade ULM and TxState for the Roadrunners? Might even throw in South Alabama.

Seriously, a solid season and way to shake things up.

Were it Texas State and South Alabama, we might consider being saddled with ULM...

(11-28-2013 06:24 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  UTSA has been very impressive, but I have to say I was absolutely killed on the old scout WAC board for suggesting that I didn't expect the inaugural season attendance to last and that attendance would settle in to a respectable G5 range ~30k.

Absolutely killed? really? Because most of us were saying about 30,000-35,000 would be our average. Everyone knew that first year attendance was inflated by the inaugural game crowd of over 56,000. Are you sure you weren't one of the ones predicting use to be lucky to average 20,000 when our team couldn't win an FBS game and went 0-12 or 1-11?

(11-27-2013 06:16 PM)MeanGreenFan123 Wrote:  UTSA has gained a lot of respect in my eyes. I think most of the negative comments were due to the chest pounding from UTSA fans before the season based on last season's 8-4 record, which was mostly against DII schools. I for one just thought it was a little annoying. I think UTSA has a really great thing going and a good shot to be good for years to come. You guys are having one hell of a season and have made leaps and bounds for only being in your 3rd year.

Congrats and Go Mean Green!

the only people that would have been thinking that were clueless dupes that did not know what they were talking about

4 of their wins were against D1-A schools USA, NMSU, Idaho and Texas State

none of those schools are DII schools

two of their other wins were against Georgia State and see you later McNeese State that are both D1-AA not DII

so that is 6 out of 8 wins that were against D1-A and D1-AA schools out of 8 wins total and last I checked 2 out of 8 was far from a majority or "mostly" and only someone that is seriously mathematically or intellectually challenged would think that it is

all the worse when the majority of those making such ignorant claims were fans of a program that had 4 wins total in 2012 and only 3 of those wins were against D1-A programs and one of those D1-A wins was USA a common opponent with UTSA and another was against a D1-A bottom feeder FAU and the 4th win was against D1-AA bottom feeder Texas Southern

so at the end of the day UTSA had more wins over D1-A teams (4 vs 3) including a common opponent in USA and UTSA had better D1-AA wins against Georgia State and see you later McNeese State

but hey whatever narrative you need to go with no matter what the actual facts are

(11-28-2013 06:50 PM)Fear The Beak Wrote:  

(11-28-2013 06:24 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  UTSA has been very impressive, but I have to say I was absolutely killed on the old scout WAC board for suggesting that I didn't expect the inaugural season attendance to last and that attendance would settle in to a respectable G5 range ~30k.

Absolutely killed? really? Because most of us were saying about 30,000-35,000 would be our average. Everyone knew that first year attendance was inflated by the inaugural game crowd of over 56,000. Are you sure you weren't one of the ones predicting use to be lucky to average 20,000 when our team couldn't win an FBS game and went 0-12 or 1-11?

No, I made no prediction about how good the team would be, simply stated that you'd end up falling in line with most decent drawing G5 programs. Most responded something like "let me get this straight, you think our attendance will go down once we're playing FBS program?!?"

I think 35k might be a little high, but if this season is a sign of things to come on the field, it might not be.

(11-28-2013 07:30 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 06:16 PM)MeanGreenFan123 Wrote:  UTSA has gained a lot of respect in my eyes. I think most of the negative comments were due to the chest pounding from UTSA fans before the season based on last season's 8-4 record, which was mostly against DII schools. I for one just thought it was a little annoying. I think UTSA has a really great thing going and a good shot to be good for years to come. You guys are having one hell of a season and have made leaps and bounds for only being in your 3rd year.

Congrats and Go Mean Green!

the only people that would have been thinking that were clueless dupes that did not know what they were talking about

4 of their wins were against D1-A schools USA, NMSU, Idaho and Texas State

none of those schools are DII schools

two of their other wins were against Georgia State and see you later McNeese State that are both D1-AA not DII

so that is 6 out of 8 wins that were against D1-A and D1-AA schools out of 8 wins total and last I checked 2 out of 8 was far from a majority or "mostly" and only someone that is seriously mathematically or intellectually challenged would think that it is

all the worse when the majority of those making such ignorant claims were fans of a program that had 4 wins total in 2012 and only 3 of those wins were against D1-A programs and one of those D1-A wins was USA a common opponent with UTSA and another was against a D1-A bottom feeder FAU and the 4th win was against D1-AA bottom feeder Texas Southern

so at the end of the day UTSA had more wins over D1-A teams (4 vs 3) including a common opponent in USA and UTSA had better D1-AA wins against Georgia State and see you later McNeese State

but hey whatever narrative you need to go with no matter what the actual facts are

USA and Texas State were in their final season of transition and Idaho and NMSU had a combined 2-22 record and the only FBS win was Idaho's win over NMSU. Georgia State was 1-10.

The DII comment was probably made from memory and recalling UTSA's 2011 schedule, a wrong statement, I'll grant you, but regardless of classification, their schedule last year was horrid, which still makes what they've done this year that much more impressive.

The last statement, coming from you of all people, is especially hilarious.

(11-28-2013 12:03 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  Any talk of an on campus stadium?

At first there was plans of a 35-45k on campus stadium in the final steps of our new athletic complex, but it was scratched. The private donations and financial backing never came for it.

In September of last year, UTSA athletics signed an extension on their lease for the Alamodome that could last all the way through 2035. Another 22 seasons in 72 degree temps for every game ;-)

(11-28-2013 07:30 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 06:16 PM)MeanGreenFan123 Wrote:  UTSA has gained a lot of respect in my eyes. I think most of the negative comments were due to the chest pounding from UTSA fans before the season based on last season's 8-4 record, which was mostly against DII schools. I for one just thought it was a little annoying. I think UTSA has a really great thing going and a good shot to be good for years to come. You guys are having one hell of a season and have made leaps and bounds for only being in your 3rd year.

Congrats and Go Mean Green!

the only people that would have been thinking that were clueless dupes that did not know what they were talking about

4 of their wins were against D1-A schools USA, NMSU, Idaho and Texas State

none of those schools are DII schools

two of their other wins were against Georgia State and see you later McNeese State that are both D1-AA not DII

so that is 6 out of 8 wins that were against D1-A and D1-AA schools out of 8 wins total and last I checked 2 out of 8 was far from a majority or "mostly" and only someone that is seriously mathematically or intellectually challenged would think that it is

all the worse when the majority of those making such ignorant claims were fans of a program that had 4 wins total in 2012 and only 3 of those wins were against D1-A programs and one of those D1-A wins was USA a common opponent with UTSA and another was against a D1-A bottom feeder FAU and the 4th win was against D1-AA bottom feeder Texas Southern

so at the end of the day UTSA had more wins over D1-A teams (4 vs 3) including a common opponent in USA and UTSA had better D1-AA wins against Georgia State and see you later McNeese State

but hey whatever narrative you need to go with no matter what the actual facts are

I perfer to look at it. The only 4 loses last year were all bowl bound teams including 3 top 25.

I was looking forward to a ECU road trip to San Antonio to watch us play UTSA Football. I have been to San Antonio several times and love the town. It looks like that might not ever happen but I think UTSA will do well in CUSA.

(11-28-2013 07:55 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(11-28-2013 07:30 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 06:16 PM)MeanGreenFan123 Wrote:  UTSA has gained a lot of respect in my eyes. I think most of the negative comments were due to the chest pounding from UTSA fans before the season based on last season's 8-4 record, which was mostly against DII schools. I for one just thought it was a little annoying. I think UTSA has a really great thing going and a good shot to be good for years to come. You guys are having one hell of a season and have made leaps and bounds for only being in your 3rd year.

Congrats and Go Mean Green!

the only people that would have been thinking that were clueless dupes that did not know what they were talking about

4 of their wins were against D1-A schools USA, NMSU, Idaho and Texas State

none of those schools are DII schools

two of their other wins were against Georgia State and see you later McNeese State that are both D1-AA not DII

so that is 6 out of 8 wins that were against D1-A and D1-AA schools out of 8 wins total and last I checked 2 out of 8 was far from a majority or "mostly" and only someone that is seriously mathematically or intellectually challenged would think that it is

all the worse when the majority of those making such ignorant claims were fans of a program that had 4 wins total in 2012 and only 3 of those wins were against D1-A programs and one of those D1-A wins was USA a common opponent with UTSA and another was against a D1-A bottom feeder FAU and the 4th win was against D1-AA bottom feeder Texas Southern

so at the end of the day UTSA had more wins over D1-A teams (4 vs 3) including a common opponent in USA and UTSA had better D1-AA wins against Georgia State and see you later McNeese State

but hey whatever narrative you need to go with no matter what the actual facts are

USA and Texas State were in their final season of transition and Idaho and NMSU had a combined 2-22 record and the only FBS win was Idaho's win over NMSU. Georgia State was 1-10.

The DII comment was probably made from memory and recalling UTSA's 2011 schedule, a wrong statement, I'll grant you, but regardless of classification, their schedule last year was horrid, which still makes what they've done this year that much more impressive.

The last statement, coming from you of all people, is especially hilarious.

Compared to established D1 programs, yes it was. But it was our 2nd year, and nearly our entire team was freshmen and sophomores. Not only that, but we were playing with 15 fewer scholarship players than all our D1 opponents (per NCAA regulations for teams in their first transition year). We actually played a tougher schedule in our 2nd season than any other program I've looked at, and dare I say, any program in history.

So while I'll acknowledge your statement as factual, some perspective is in order.

I'm very impressed with UTSA and what they're doing.

After Brad Lambert was hired by Charlotte, he spent a lot of time visiting with Coker in San Antonio to see how he built UTSA. I hope he took a lot of notes...

(11-28-2013 11:29 AM)lovinodu Wrote:  Well I've been to a couple of games at the dome. The tailgating is greatt and your team is doing well. The game atmosphere needs to improve. Your program is on the right track. Glad coker came to norfolk to see a start up program at the fcs level and then did his as an fbs startup program. Jealous of that.

Your band is one of the best I have seen in a long time. Well trained just stop going fo the cheesy stuff. I think it could continue to improve.

Look forard to you guys beating us next year. And please do something about your basketball teams. Kubby for the womens is a former odu assistant. Hell turn your wbb program around.

What do you mean cheesy stuff? We try to be entertaining. I'm just curious.

(11-29-2013 12:25 AM)Snorkel 378 TH Wrote:  

(11-28-2013 11:29 AM)lovinodu Wrote:  Well I've been to a couple of games at the dome. The tailgating is greatt and your team is doing well. The game atmosphere needs to improve. Your program is on the right track. Glad coker came to norfolk to see a start up program at the fcs level and then did his as an fbs startup program. Jealous of that.

Your band is one of the best I have seen in a long time. Well trained just stop going fo the cheesy stuff. I think it could continue to improve.

Look forard to you guys beating us next year. And please do something about your basketball teams. Kubby for the womens is a former odu assistant. Hell turn your wbb program around.

What do you mean cheesy stuff? We try to be entertaining. I'm just curious.

That has me curious also.

Wow...ok. the arrangements are nice but the shows are predictable. And the band does all the stuff you have seen in the movies like ferris buellers day off dance. Not to mention your drum majors or at least one of them do the same stuff. The predicatablity of your shows is what makes it cheesy. You go for the easy stuff. But I know your dir was with ucf and did the same stuff there. And he did work for disney. He just needs to move beyond that. Time to get some new material. Your band is headed in the right direction and is well taught. But when the show starts you know exactly which direction its going in and what dance moves will be there. And that is why its cheesy.

(11-28-2013 07:30 PM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  

(11-27-2013 06:16 PM)MeanGreenFan123 Wrote:  UTSA has gained a lot of respect in my eyes. I think most of the negative comments were due to the chest pounding from UTSA fans before the season based on last season's 8-4 record, which was mostly against DII schools. I for one just thought it was a little annoying. I think UTSA has a really great thing going and a good shot to be good for years to come. You guys are having one hell of a season and have made leaps and bounds for only being in your 3rd year.

Congrats and Go Mean Green!

the only people that would have been thinking that were clueless dupes that did not know what they were talking about

4 of their wins were against D1-A schools USA, NMSU, Idaho and Texas State

none of those schools are DII schools

two of their other wins were against Georgia State and see you later McNeese State that are both D1-AA not DII

so that is 6 out of 8 wins that were against D1-A and D1-AA schools out of 8 wins total and last I checked 2 out of 8 was far from a majority or "mostly" and only someone that is seriously mathematically or intellectually challenged would think that it is

all the worse when the majority of those making such ignorant claims were fans of a program that had 4 wins total in 2012 and only 3 of those wins were against D1-A programs and one of those D1-A wins was USA a common opponent with UTSA and another was against a D1-A bottom feeder FAU and the 4th win was against D1-AA bottom feeder Texas Southern

so at the end of the day UTSA had more wins over D1-A teams (4 vs 3) including a common opponent in USA and UTSA had better D1-AA wins against Georgia State and see you later McNeese State

but hey whatever narrative you need to go with no matter what the actual facts are

Jesus man...you need help.

I think it's obvious to everybody on this board that I didn't mean "DII schools" in a literal or comprehensive sense. Yes, two of UTSA's eight wins last year were literally against NW Oklahoma State and Texas A&M Commerce, both DII schools. Two more of those wins were against FCS schools. Two more against first year FBS transitional schools. Finally, two more wins against arguably the worst FBS programs in NM State and Idaho.

Anybody who thinks that UTSA's 8 wins last year are more impressive than what they've already accomplished this year is truly a clueless dupe (such as yourself). Also, please spare me the "narrative/facts" talk as your only narrative in life is to talk about UNT in a negative manner.

Like I said, I respect UTSA and am impressed with what they've done, regardless of what UNT has or hasn't done.

We got slurped off pretty hard on today's C-USA showcase episode. Loved it.

I did not expect UTSA to still be in the championship race at this point, but I did expect them to be a tough team that could play the spoiler role, and they have. Next year, I expect they will be a contender again in the championship race and a bowl team, as long as they have a good QB replacement.

(11-29-2013 02:23 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I did not expect UTSA to still be in the championship race at this point, but I did expect them to be a tough team that could play the spoiler role, and they have. Next year, I expect they will be a contender again in the championship race and a bowl team, as long as they have a good QB replacement.

There can be an argument that Soza is the least talented QB on our roster. What he lacks with physical attributes he makes up with leadership and pure grit. He certainly will be missed. I'm looking forward to Coach Brown opening up the play book and adding some pass routes longer than 15 yards.

Next year UTSA is going to be dangerous. We'll have a ridiculous amount of SRs 30+ Guys that have been on the team 4 or 5 years with tons of chemistry and starting experience.

(11-29-2013 01:07 AM)lovinodu Wrote:  Wow...ok. the arrangements are nice but the shows are predictable. And the band does all the stuff you have seen in the movies like ferris buellers day off dance. Not to mention your drum majors or at least one of them do the same stuff. The predicatablity of your shows is what makes it cheesy. You go for the easy stuff. But I know your dir was with ucf and did the same stuff there. And he did work for disney. He just needs to move beyond that. Time to get some new material. Your band is headed in the right direction and is well taught. But when the show starts you know exactly which direction its going in and what dance moves will be there. And that is why its cheesy.

Ah, That's ok. As long as we sound good. Especially my Bass Clarinets and Bari Saxes.

I was a sax player so I would never comment against those sections. Lol

(11-29-2013 02:32 AM)SApuro Wrote:  

(11-29-2013 02:23 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I did not expect UTSA to still be in the championship race at this point, but I did expect them to be a tough team that could play the spoiler role, and they have. Next year, I expect they will be a contender again in the championship race and a bowl team, as long as they have a good QB replacement.

There can be an argument that Soza is the least talented QB on our roster. What he lacks with physical attributes he makes up with leadership and pure grit. He certainly will be missed. I'm looking forward to Coach Brown opening up the play book and adding some pass routes longer than 15 yards.

Next year UTSA is going to be dangerous. We'll have a ridiculous amount of SRs 30+ Guys that have been on the team 4 or 5 years with tons of chemistry and starting experience.

This is true. Soza is a damn fine leader and deserves nothing but respect but the guys behind him are more talented athletes with bigger arms. Its been pretty amazing what this team has done with a lack of a vertical passing game.

The 30-40 "5 year starters" are going to be dangerous next year