(03-09-2015 06:34 PM)PirateJim Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 11:22 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 11:16 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 10:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  CUSA needs to be on ESPN. even if it means playing on Tuesday.

Nope

Yes because that is the best way to get exposure. The casual fan will watch if it's on ESPN. No disrespect to American sports network but the casual fan isn't going to go through the trouble of buying rabbit ears and searching for cusa games on channel 14.3.

I've never even heard of the American Sports Network.

If you were still a part of us you would like it. It beats the hell out of the comcast games we used to have. No mention of sec or acc during their broadcast.

(03-09-2015 06:59 PM)PirateJim Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 06:48 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 06:34 PM)PirateJim Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 11:22 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 11:16 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  Nope

Yes because that is the best way to get exposure. The casual fan will watch if it's on ESPN. No disrespect to American sports network but the casual fan isn't going to go through the trouble of buying rabbit ears and searching for cusa games on channel 14.3.

I've never even heard of the American Athletic Conference.

Join the crowd.

I wasn't trying to insult you.

(12-05-2003 03:29 PM)RacerJoe01 Wrote:  :wave:

That's why you need rabbit ears.

(03-09-2015 07:05 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 11:22 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 11:16 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 10:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  CUSA needs to be on ESPN. even if it means playing on Tuesday.

Nope

Yes because that is the best way to get exposure. The casual fan will watch if it's on ESPN. No disrespect to American sports network but the casual fan isn't going to go through the trouble of buying rabbit ears and searching for cusa games on channel 14.3.

ASN has like 5million affilitates. I can't speak for all of them but the one in Shreveport isn't difficult to find. It's channel 21 on directv, dish, cable, and off air antenna. They also play ACC games and used to play SEC games.

In El paso, you need rabbit ears. 14.2

(03-09-2015 09:52 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 07:05 PM)Saint Greg Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 11:22 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 11:16 AM)Blue_Trombone Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 10:14 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  CUSA needs to be on ESPN. even if it means playing on Tuesday.

Nope

Yes because that is the best way to get exposure. The casual fan will watch if it's on ESPN. No disrespect to American sports network but the casual fan isn't going to go through the trouble of buying rabbit ears and searching for cusa games on channel 14.3.

ASN has like 5million affilitates. I can't speak for all of them but the one in Shreveport isn't difficult to find. It's channel 21 on directv, dish, cable, and off air antenna. They also play ACC games and used to play SEC games.

In El paso, you need rabbit ears. 14.2

Well sucks for you that living in El Paso means you have to get rabbit ears for your local channels.

F*** that "casual fan." If he's not going to show an interest in my school unless I practically show up at his house and put his TV on the right channel for him, then his feelings take a back seat to those of my own athletes, donors, and ticket-holders.

Seriously, people. Why should I give two craps about how easy it is for some guy in a bar in Wyoming to access a Southern Miss-UNT game? It's not like there will ever be enough of them to boost the money from the networks by any discernible level.

If you have DirecTv or Dish and subscribe to all the regional sport channels, you can watch every ASN game broadcasted or at least that has been the case for me,

Thats not the issue. in Charlotte, there is no ASN affiliate. And MASN, which isnt available on TWC, IIRC, has first rights to some of the games. WCCB picks up the games, but they cannot show them on their main channel that is part of TWC. Instead, they are forced to broadcast on one of their secondary OTA channels... much like El Paso's 14.2. So rabbit ears...

That said , I was able to watch most of the CUSA football games on cable TV last season. Coverage was fantastic, especially given that there is no ASN affiliate here.

But basketball has been putrid. Ive been ignored two times already in this thread, but that is where the league needs to improve its coverage. CUSA only plays two days per week, and most of the games are not broadcast. That has to change, and the league needs to move 1 or 2 thursday hoops games per week to Wednesday night and get them on TV, along with more of the Thursday and Saturday games. It is essential to building the hoops brand.

A bandaid was that ASN was streaming hoops games on their site, but they recently updated, and all the streaming links are now gone (contract/license issues?). That is terrible for fans.

Hoops TV must be fixed. It is imperative. Our hoops brand is nonexistant. Just check your cable/sat listings on a saturday. CUSA is lucky to have one game anywhere. Meanwhile every AAC and A10 game, and quite a few MVC and other mid major league games are on. CUSA was 17th or 18th in ranking, but even worse in broadcast frequency. Leagues like the MEAC were getting as much air time. It was pathetic this season.

Football TV could be improved, but quite honestly, the status quo is fine. Fix hoops first.

(03-09-2015 11:06 PM)Artifice Wrote:  Thats not the issue. in Charlotte, there is no ASN affiliate. And MASN, which isnt available on TWC, IIRC, has first rights to some of the games. WCCB picks up the games, but they cannot show them on their main channel that is part of TWC. Instead, they are forced to broadcast on one of their secondary OTA channels... much like El Paso's 14.2. So rabbit ears...

That said , I was able to watch most of the CUSA football games on cable TV last season. Coverage was fantastic, especially given that there is no ASN affiliate here.

But basketball has been putrid. Ive been ignored two times already in this thread, but that is where the league needs to improve its coverage. CUSA only plays two days per week, and most of the games are not broadcast. That has to change, and the league needs to move 1 or 2 thursday hoops games per week to Wednesday night and get them on TV, along with more of the Thursday and Saturday games. It is essential to building the hoops brand.

A bandaid was that ASN was streaming hoops games on their site, but they recently updated, and all the streaming links are now gone (contract/license issues?). That is terrible for fans.

Hoops TV must be fixed. It is imperative. Our hoops brand is nonexistant. Just check your cable/sat listings on a saturday. CUSA is lucky to have one game anywhere. Meanwhile every AAC and A10 game, and quite a few MVC and other mid major league games are on. CUSA was 17th or 18th in ranking, but even worse in broadcast frequency. Leagues like the MEAC were getting as much air time. It was pathetic this season.

Football TV could be improved, but quite honestly, the status quo is fine. Fix hoops first.

There are 35 million DirecTv and Dish households that can watch the ASN games on Thursday and Saturdays. And that is a huge market.

I watch every Tech game ASN broadcasted this year, probably twice as many as last year. ASN has been great for many satellite customers

(03-09-2015 10:57 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  If you have DirecTv or Dish and subscribe to all the regional sport channels, you can watch every ASN game broadcasted or at least that has been the case for me,

That is an extra 15 dollars and you still don't get all the games. Casual fans aren't going to bother.

(03-10-2015 12:09 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 10:57 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  If you have DirecTv or Dish and subscribe to all the regional sport channels, you can watch every ASN game broadcasted or at least that has been the case for me,

That is an extra 15 dollars and you still don't get all the games. Casual fans aren't going to bother.

I have directv with sports pack. The only tech game that wasn't available to me was our FCS game.

I did a little research on ASN and the reason I didn't know about it is because it is only available from Raleigh to Winston-Salem and Fayetteville. I live down on the coast and we don't have it.

(03-09-2015 07:17 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 06:59 PM)PirateJim Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 06:48 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 06:34 PM)PirateJim Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 11:22 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Yes because that is the best way to get exposure. The casual fan will watch if it's on ESPN. No disrespect to American sports network but the casual fan isn't going to go through the trouble of buying rabbit ears and searching for cusa games on channel 14.3.

I've never even heard of the American Athletic Conference.

Join the crowd.

I wasn't trying to insult you.

Don't give up your day job because you are a terrible mind reader.

(03-10-2015 07:07 AM)PirateJim Wrote:  I did a little research on ASN and the reason I didn't know about it is because it is only available from Raleigh to Winston-Salem and Fayetteville. I live down on the coast and we don't have it.

The great thing about having Directv and the sports package is that I usually get several choices of channels to watch ASN games. This week the C-USA tournament 1st two rounds will be on 3 channels simultaneously which improves the chances of casual sports junkies looking for games will find them. I live in an area that normally would not receive the ota telecasts by ASN so Directv is a must for me.

I never get to see other CUSA teams play, but at least Cox picks up all the ODU games on ASN, which was nice. However, aside from UTEP and Charlotte, who played OOC games that were on TV, I literally have not seen any other CUSA teams play outside of their games against ODU. I have only seen La Tech and UAB play once.

(03-10-2015 08:11 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  I never get to see other CUSA teams play, but at least Cox picks up all the ODU games on ASN, which was nice. However, aside from UTEP and Charlotte, who played OOC games that were on TV, I literally have not seen any other CUSA teams play outside of their games against ODU. I have only seen La Tech and UAB play once.

I must be the lucky one. I have Direct TV and I have seen numerous CUSA teams play on ASN. I love their pre-game, half time, and post game shows. They really promote the G5 teams.

(03-09-2015 11:06 PM)Artifice Wrote:  Thats not the issue. in Charlotte, there is no ASN affiliate. And MASN, which isnt available on TWC, IIRC, has first rights to some of the games. WCCB picks up the games, but they cannot show them on their main channel that is part of TWC. Instead, they are forced to broadcast on one of their secondary OTA channels... much like El Paso's 14.2. So rabbit ears...

That said , I was able to watch most of the CUSA football games on cable TV last season. Coverage was fantastic, especially given that there is no ASN affiliate here.

But basketball has been putrid. Ive been ignored two times already in this thread, but that is where the league needs to improve its coverage. CUSA only plays two days per week, and most of the games are not broadcast. That has to change, and the league needs to move 1 or 2 thursday hoops games per week to Wednesday night and get them on TV, along with more of the Thursday and Saturday games. It is essential to building the hoops brand.

A bandaid was that ASN was streaming hoops games on their site, but they recently updated, and all the streaming links are now gone (contract/license issues?). That is terrible for fans.

Hoops TV must be fixed. It is imperative. Our hoops brand is nonexistant. Just check your cable/sat listings on a saturday. CUSA is lucky to have one game anywhere. Meanwhile every AAC and A10 game, and quite a few MVC and other mid major league games are on. CUSA was 17th or 18th in ranking, but even worse in broadcast frequency. Leagues like the MEAC were getting as much air time. It was pathetic this season.

Football TV could be improved, but quite honestly, the status quo is fine. Fix hoops first.

Agree about basketball....When the OVC has more exposure, someone is not doing their job in CUSA...

Must say though coverage is better than what I was used to last year...ONly disappointment on Direct TV was this past Saturdays games was not on any channel on Direct TV...ALso FCS carried all of WKU basketball games minus, so that was also a huge deal for a wku out of town fan like m..

Thought I was going to be shut out Wed. with the CUSA tournament night games, but looks like 642-1 is carrying WKU vs. MTSU..Yes I know they need to change their guide, they have the game after right (rice vs. UNT), So I assume that means I can watch our game Wed. night on Direct...

I traded NFL SUnday ticket in for sports package and I am so glad I did! Well worth the money to me as I have watched several football and basketball games....ALso being a Titans fan, NFL Sunday ticket is not worth it anymore, LOL

(03-09-2015 10:51 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  ...take a back seat to those of my own athletes, donors, and ticket-holders.

Seriously, people. Why should I give two craps about how easy it is for some guy in a bar in Wyoming to access a Southern Miss-UNT game? It's not like there will ever be enough of them to boost the money from the networks by any discernible level.

There should be balance. Reaching casual/new fans and athletes/donors/tickets holders are not mutually exclusive. If sports are the front porch and marketing arm of the university, then ignoring casual/new fans alienates a significant portion of the target market. It's preaching to the choir...which while necessary does not grow the student body of a university...what presidents care about.

ESPN isn't necessary. However, priority placement on Big FOX and FS1 should be (if the goal is national brand growth). ASN is great, but as others have noted consistency across platforms/content is lacking. A dedicated cable channel would help. Also, the ACC network getting off the ground (supposedly) will open up more slots on ASN as that is where most of the content will be poached from. ASN has a niche and if they can pull it all together would be a viable alternative. Question is, will the $ be there?

(03-10-2015 12:03 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 10:51 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  ...take a back seat to those of my own athletes, donors, and ticket-holders.

Seriously, people. Why should I give two craps about how easy it is for some guy in a bar in Wyoming to access a Southern Miss-UNT game? It's not like there will ever be enough of them to boost the money from the networks by any discernible level.

There should be balance. Reaching casual/new fans and athletes/donors/tickets holders are not mutually exclusive. If sports are the front porch and marketing arm of the university, then ignoring casual/new fans alienates a significant portion of the target market. It's preaching to the choir...which while necessary does not grow the student body of a university...what presidents care about.

There is no balance regarding the Tuesday/Wednesday stuff. That's just royally screwing everyone because the network told you to. Sure, you might be seen by more people across the country, but as I said before, 99.999% of that non-local audience will never so much as buy a logo-ed t-shirt or bother to call the admissions office for a pamphlet.

Looking at it from Southern Miss perspective, we're much better off syndicated on the local Gulfport station on Saturday afternoon than on ESPN2 on a Tuesday night. Are as many people watching across the country? Probably not, but the people whom we most need to reach and who are more likely to make significant contributions to our future still have every bit as much of opportunity to tune in, arguably more since you don't even need a pay TV service and the broadcasts are more conspicuously promoted. And, all the while, you actually get to keep the people who are already on board involved on game day.

There's also a certain amount of reality that needs to be faced. None of us are Notre Dame or Texas, and the P5/G5 split has assured none of us ever will be. That 4-star QB recruit in Colorado who's going to happen upon a Marshall-Middle Tennessee game in a half-empty stadium on a Tuesday night and go, "Hey, I want to go play for them!" simply doesn't exist. At this point, we need to be more worried about our own back yards than the lots 5 blocks away.

I'm all for better national coverage, but not at any cost.

(03-10-2015 01:41 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  

(03-10-2015 12:03 PM)gulfcoastgal Wrote:  

(03-09-2015 10:51 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:  ...take a back seat to those of my own athletes, donors, and ticket-holders.

Seriously, people. Why should I give two craps about how easy it is for some guy in a bar in Wyoming to access a Southern Miss-UNT game? It's not like there will ever be enough of them to boost the money from the networks by any discernible level.

There should be balance. Reaching casual/new fans and athletes/donors/tickets holders are not mutually exclusive. If sports are the front porch and marketing arm of the university, then ignoring casual/new fans alienates a significant portion of the target market. It's preaching to the choir...which while necessary does not grow the student body of a university...what presidents care about.

There is no balance regarding the Tuesday/Wednesday stuff. That's just royally screwing everyone because the network told you to. Sure, you might be seen by more people across the country, but as I said before, 99.999% of that non-local audience will never so much as buy a logo-ed t-shirt or bother to call the admissions office for a pamphlet.

Looking at it from Southern Miss perspective, we're much better off syndicated on the local Gulfport station on Saturday afternoon than on ESPN2 on a Tuesday night. Are as many people watching across the country? Probably not, but the people whom we most need to reach and who are more likely to make significant contributions to our future still have every bit as much of opportunity to tune in, arguably more since you don't even need a pay TV service and the broadcasts are more conspicuously promoted. And, all the while, you actually get to keep the people who are already on board involved on game day.

There's also a certain amount of reality that needs to be faced. None of us are Notre Dame or Texas, and the P5/G5 split has assured none of us ever will be. That 4-star QB recruit in Colorado who's going to happen upon a Marshall-Middle Tennessee game in a half-empty stadium on a Tuesday night and go, "Hey, I want to go play for them!" simply doesn't exist. At this point, we need to be more worried about our own back yards than the lots 5 blocks away.

I'm all for better national coverage, but not at any cost.

easily agree.....

the 'exposure day' doesn't mean shite to us unless some 'phoenix' becomes the next peyton manning....what's the likelihood of that?

...gotta take care of the donors....that's easily the first step unless they are non-accessible.....

disclaimer: it's still only 'hit or miss' with any g5 exposure.....been saying it since realignment began.....