(06-14-2017 09:33 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:28 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:00 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 08:52 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I see a lot of people attack "liberals." I am not one. I will not be put into a category. I think for myself. And because I think for myself I find this to reprehensible for some of you to say some of the things you are saying.

If you did not say the exact same thing about the biased opinions by far right wing "media" when Kathy Giffords was shot then you are living a double standard. You know, it's deplorable when the bad people attack "my side" of the political spectrum but when the other side of the political spectrum is attacked by those "with my political views" then just go quiet, sweep it under the rug and wait for the next time the other side goes rogue so you can criticize them again. This is exactly what both sides currently do.

People need to stop being sheep. The problem isn't the media. The problem is the people who increasingly only want to be informed by their pre-existing viewpoints and don't care what the other viewpoints might be. And as a result the media further caters to that. Until the people think independently with their own brains this is only going to get worse.

Was there a "resistance" against Gabbie Giffords or the Obama gov't?

Uh. Really? First black President. Do you seriously have to ask that question?

Damn right I will ask it. You are a typical lib that refuses to the reality of the organized resistance against Trump. Obama had typical opposition from those that wanted him to lose, but he was accepted and no billion dollar organized resistance was mounted against him. You libs have let your hate consume you and today you see one result of that hate you foster and push.

I'm not a liberal. You don't know me nor do you know my views, but I do know you are wrong in trying to label me. So, how in the world can you say I have hate that I'm fostering and pushing? You sir are the problem with views like these, because you are the one pushing a hate filled agenda. I'm am nothing like you are suggesting and it's people who believe like you that are part of the problem.

(06-14-2017 09:22 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:17 AM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  This tragedy is 100% squarely on the Democrats and the MSM. No getting around that. They'll feign concern and sadness over this act of partisan violence, but they'll no doubt high five each other behind closed doors. This is what they want. By any means necessary.

There are ****heads on this board that will be pleased with this shooting. Plus, it will give them the opportunity to cry about gun control. Oh, joy. You know it's coming. Never let a tragedy go to waste.

Dead Fish, a.k.a. fsquid took care of that.

(06-14-2017 09:37 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:33 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:28 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:00 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 08:52 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I see a lot of people attack "liberals." I am not one. I will not be put into a category. I think for myself. And because I think for myself I find this to reprehensible for some of you to say some of the things you are saying.

If you did not say the exact same thing about the biased opinions by far right wing "media" when Kathy Giffords was shot then you are living a double standard. You know, it's deplorable when the bad people attack "my side" of the political spectrum but when the other side of the political spectrum is attacked by those "with my political views" then just go quiet, sweep it under the rug and wait for the next time the other side goes rogue so you can criticize them again. This is exactly what both sides currently do.

People need to stop being sheep. The problem isn't the media. The problem is the people who increasingly only want to be informed by their pre-existing viewpoints and don't care what the other viewpoints might be. And as a result the media further caters to that. Until the people think independently with their own brains this is only going to get worse.

Was there a "resistance" against Gabbie Giffords or the Obama gov't?

Uh. Really? First black President. Do you seriously have to ask that question?

Damn right I will ask it. You are a typical lib that refuses to the reality of the organized resistance against Trump. Obama had typical opposition from those that wanted him to lose, but he was accepted and no billion dollar organized resistance was mounted against him. You libs have let your hate consume you and today you see one result of that hate you foster and push.

I'm not a liberal. You don't know me nor do you know my views, but I do know you are wrong in trying to label me. So, how in the world can you say I have hate that I'm fostering and pushing? You sir are the problem with views like these, because you are the one pushing a hate filled agenda. I'm am nothing like you are suggesting and it's people who believe like you that are part of the problem.

You're being labeled for your ignorance of the truth, nothing more. If you're not a liberal you're an idiot. Pick which label you'd rather go by.

(06-14-2017 09:37 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:33 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:28 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:00 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 08:52 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I see a lot of people attack "liberals." I am not one. I will not be put into a category. I think for myself. And because I think for myself I find this to reprehensible for some of you to say some of the things you are saying.

If you did not say the exact same thing about the biased opinions by far right wing "media" when Kathy Giffords was shot then you are living a double standard. You know, it's deplorable when the bad people attack "my side" of the political spectrum but when the other side of the political spectrum is attacked by those "with my political views" then just go quiet, sweep it under the rug and wait for the next time the other side goes rogue so you can criticize them again. This is exactly what both sides currently do.

People need to stop being sheep. The problem isn't the media. The problem is the people who increasingly only want to be informed by their pre-existing viewpoints and don't care what the other viewpoints might be. And as a result the media further caters to that. Until the people think independently with their own brains this is only going to get worse.

Was there a "resistance" against Gabbie Giffords or the Obama gov't?

Uh. Really? First black President. Do you seriously have to ask that question?

Damn right I will ask it. You are a typical lib that refuses to the reality of the organized resistance against Trump. Obama had typical opposition from those that wanted him to lose, but he was accepted and no billion dollar organized resistance was mounted against him. You libs have let your hate consume you and today you see one result of that hate you foster and push.

I'm not a liberal. You don't know me nor do you know my views, but I do know you are wrong in trying to label me. So, how in the world can you say I have hate that I'm fostering and pushing? You sir are the problem with views like these, because you are the one pushing a hate filled agenda. I'm am nothing like you are suggesting and it's people who believe like you that are part of the problem.

Your posts, which have come out of the blue, tend to say otherwise. We have republicans on laying the ground shot by someone who seemed to want to ensure it was republicans on that baseball field, and your concern is that libturds dont take the blame for it? Really? Thats your concern?

(06-14-2017 09:36 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:28 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:00 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 08:52 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I see a lot of people attack "liberals." I am not one. I will not be put into a category. I think for myself. And because I think for myself I find this to reprehensible for some of you to say some of the things you are saying.

If you did not say the exact same thing about the biased opinions by far right wing "media" when Kathy Giffords was shot then you are living a double standard. You know, it's deplorable when the bad people attack "my side" of the political spectrum but when the other side of the political spectrum is attacked by those "with my political views" then just go quiet, sweep it under the rug and wait for the next time the other side goes rogue so you can criticize them again. This is exactly what both sides currently do.

People need to stop being sheep. The problem isn't the media. The problem is the people who increasingly only want to be informed by their pre-existing viewpoints and don't care what the other viewpoints might be. And as a result the media further caters to that. Until the people think independently with their own brains this is only going to get worse.

Was there a "resistance" against Gabbie Giffords or the Obama gov't?

Uh. Really? First black President. Do you seriously have to ask that question?

Once again, Gabby Giffords was not shot by a person on the right. Giffords shooter hated Bush, and actually attended a Giffords event earlier, asked her a question, then got mad at how he felt she didnt answer the question the way he wanted her to.

This is a misrepresentation. I work for a fed LE/intel organization and his motivations have been misconstrued for political reasons. What was missed most is how his views changed in the last year or two before the shooting. At the time of his shooting he held extreme views that aligned with radical conservative ideology.

I suspect we will find out today that this guy was similar. Had some sort of trigger event and snapped because he hates conservatism. Both are wrong. The problem is both sides accused the other side of the same crime they are unwilling to accept exists on their own side.

(06-14-2017 09:33 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 08:56 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 08:52 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I see a lot of people attack "liberals." I am not one. I will not be put into a category. I think for myself. And because I think for myself I find this to reprehensible for some of you to say some of the things you are saying.

If you did not say the exact same thing about the biased opinions by far right wing "media" when Kathy Giffords was shot then you are living a double standard. You know, it's deplorable when the bad people attack "my side" of the political spectrum but when the other side of the political spectrum is attacked by those "with my political views" then just go quiet, sweep it under the rug and wait for the next time the other side goes rogue so you can criticize them again. This is exactly what both sides currently do.

People need to stop being sheep. The problem isn't the media. The problem is the people who increasingly only want to be informed by their pre-existing viewpoints and don't care what the other viewpoints might be. And as a result the media further caters to that. Until the people think independently with their own brains this is only going to get worse.

we do think for ourselves....and I've called out both sides

that's just more msm brainwash bullshite....

completely disagree.....how in the hell do you "fix people" with that line of thinking???

Both sides deserve to be called out, so I applaud that. But what part do you disagree with?

I bet you most of the conservatives on this board only watch Fox News and got to sites like Brietbart and Infowars.

Similar, I bet the liberals on this board only go to MSNBC, CNN or Huffington Post.

Those establishments don't exist unless their are people that will religious patronize their drivel. The polarization in the country is only growing a wider divide. The more people only listen to views that already support their established the views the wider the polarization will grow.

I'm a centrist....I'm a best method practitioner....six sigma black belt style....

how many of those are out there???

we agree....however, we don't relative to expectation....one has to understand that 'all men are NOT created equal' and work from that point to achieve the goal of
"onward and upward" relative to the welfare of mankind....

this is very complicated in scope.....in no way is this solved in a nano flip o' switch.....

(06-14-2017 09:40 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:37 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:33 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:28 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:00 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Was there a "resistance" against Gabbie Giffords or the Obama gov't?

Uh. Really? First black President. Do you seriously have to ask that question?

Damn right I will ask it. You are a typical lib that refuses to the reality of the organized resistance against Trump. Obama had typical opposition from those that wanted him to lose, but he was accepted and no billion dollar organized resistance was mounted against him. You libs have let your hate consume you and today you see one result of that hate you foster and push.

I'm not a liberal. You don't know me nor do you know my views, but I do know you are wrong in trying to label me. So, how in the world can you say I have hate that I'm fostering and pushing? You sir are the problem with views like these, because you are the one pushing a hate filled agenda. I'm am nothing like you are suggesting and it's people who believe like you that are part of the problem.

Your posts, which have come out of the blue, tend to say otherwise. We have republicans on laying the ground shot by someone who seemed to want to ensure it was republicans on that baseball field, and your concern is that libturds dont take the blame for it? Really? Thats your concern?

Today expect libs to deny they are libs.

(06-14-2017 09:40 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:37 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:33 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:28 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:00 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Was there a "resistance" against Gabbie Giffords or the Obama gov't?

Uh. Really? First black President. Do you seriously have to ask that question?

Damn right I will ask it. You are a typical lib that refuses to the reality of the organized resistance against Trump. Obama had typical opposition from those that wanted him to lose, but he was accepted and no billion dollar organized resistance was mounted against him. You libs have let your hate consume you and today you see one result of that hate you foster and push.

I'm not a liberal. You don't know me nor do you know my views, but I do know you are wrong in trying to label me. So, how in the world can you say I have hate that I'm fostering and pushing? You sir are the problem with views like these, because you are the one pushing a hate filled agenda. I'm am nothing like you are suggesting and it's people who believe like you that are part of the problem.

Your posts, which have come out of the blue, tend to say otherwise. We have republicans on laying the ground shot by someone who seemed to want to ensure it was republicans on that baseball field, and your concern is that libturds dont take the blame for it? Really? Thats your concern?

You are doing the exact same thing that you are accusing me of. You are less concerned about the people laying on the ground and trying to portray a narrative that this is all the democrats and anti-Trump movement's fault. The irony is freaking hilarious. You are literally doing the same thing you accuse me of.

That said, let me preface for you what my real concerns are, which are broader than today's single incident. My prayers go out to those who have been injured by today's cowardly attack. I hope they all are ok. It's terrible what that ******* did.

However, I'm concerned with the direction this country is taking because of the division that is being propagated by both sides of the aisle. My point is if we don't as a people get out of this vicious cycle of it's only going to get worse.

Gov Terry Mccauliff of Va just said that there are "too many guns in the streets...93 Million people are killed daily in our country. "

What an idiot!!

(06-14-2017 09:43 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:36 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:28 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:00 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 08:52 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I see a lot of people attack "liberals." I am not one. I will not be put into a category. I think for myself. And because I think for myself I find this to reprehensible for some of you to say some of the things you are saying.

If you did not say the exact same thing about the biased opinions by far right wing "media" when Kathy Giffords was shot then you are living a double standard. You know, it's deplorable when the bad people attack "my side" of the political spectrum but when the other side of the political spectrum is attacked by those "with my political views" then just go quiet, sweep it under the rug and wait for the next time the other side goes rogue so you can criticize them again. This is exactly what both sides currently do.

People need to stop being sheep. The problem isn't the media. The problem is the people who increasingly only want to be informed by their pre-existing viewpoints and don't care what the other viewpoints might be. And as a result the media further caters to that. Until the people think independently with their own brains this is only going to get worse.

Was there a "resistance" against Gabbie Giffords or the Obama gov't?

Uh. Really? First black President. Do you seriously have to ask that question?

Once again, Gabby Giffords was not shot by a person on the right. Giffords shooter hated Bush, and actually attended a Giffords event earlier, asked her a question, then got mad at how he felt she didnt answer the question the way he wanted her to.

This is a misrepresentation. I work for a fed LE/intel organization and his motivations have been misconstrued for political reasons. What was missed most is how his views changed in the last year or two before the shooting. At the time of his shooting he held extreme views that aligned with radical conservative ideology.

I suspect we will find out today that this guy was similar. Had some sort of trigger event and snapped because he hates conservatism. Both are wrong. The problem is both sides accused the other side of the same crime they are unwilling to accept exists on their own side.

Spare me your drivel. It was WELL REPORTED WITH FACTS that this guy hated Bush, attended a Giffords event to ask her a question, and he didnt like how she answered him. He was a libturd who had hit the hallucinogens too hard over the years. Trying to make him out as a member of the conservative wing is complete nonsense.

Also, there is NO WAY under the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION that this guys motivations were misconstrued other than trying to make him out to be a conservative.

(06-14-2017 09:48 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:40 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:37 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:33 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:28 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  Uh. Really? First black President. Do you seriously have to ask that question?

Damn right I will ask it. You are a typical lib that refuses to the reality of the organized resistance against Trump. Obama had typical opposition from those that wanted him to lose, but he was accepted and no billion dollar organized resistance was mounted against him. You libs have let your hate consume you and today you see one result of that hate you foster and push.

I'm not a liberal. You don't know me nor do you know my views, but I do know you are wrong in trying to label me. So, how in the world can you say I have hate that I'm fostering and pushing? You sir are the problem with views like these, because you are the one pushing a hate filled agenda. I'm am nothing like you are suggesting and it's people who believe like you that are part of the problem.

Your posts, which have come out of the blue, tend to say otherwise. We have republicans on laying the ground shot by someone who seemed to want to ensure it was republicans on that baseball field, and your concern is that libturds dont take the blame for it? Really? Thats your concern?

Today expect libs to deny they are libs.

I see that this forum exposes the true colors and character of some people.

(06-14-2017 09:37 AM)hburg Wrote:  The organized resistance against Trump and others have now caused violent injury. People like former AG Lynch, Griffen, several news media pundant are to be blamed for encouraging violence and hate toward their fellow human being. Another example of that hate is Evergreen college.

Or the University of Maryland.

There's hate everywhere. Pointing your finger and blaming the other side isn't going to solve anything.

(06-14-2017 09:50 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:48 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:40 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:37 AM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(06-14-2017 09:33 AM)usmbacker Wrote:  Damn right I will ask it. You are a typical lib that refuses to the reality of the organized resistance against Trump. Obama had typical opposition from those that wanted him to lose, but he was accepted and no billion dollar organized resistance was mounted against him. You libs have let your hate consume you and today you see one result of that hate you foster and push.

I'm not a liberal. You don't know me nor do you know my views, but I do know you are wrong in trying to label me. So, how in the world can you say I have hate that I'm fostering and pushing? You sir are the problem with views like these, because you are the one pushing a hate filled agenda. I'm am nothing like you are suggesting and it's people who believe like you that are part of the problem.

Your posts, which have come out of the blue, tend to say otherwise. We have republicans on laying the ground shot by someone who seemed to want to ensure it was republicans on that baseball field, and your concern is that libturds dont take the blame for it? Really? Thats your concern?

Today expect libs to deny they are libs.

I see that this forum exposes the true colors and character of some people.

fair enough....

however, I'm thinking he's talking about the flamers that are still silent....

Some will say I'm weak, because I won't pick a side. That's fine. That's your opinion. IMO, a real man doesn't hide behind a label or simply follow the crowd (which is what most of the people in the southeast, northeast and west coast do).

I believe in the Constitution. So, let me give you an example. I believe in the 2nd Amendment. I certainly don't want government thinking they can take my guns from me. So, any Dem who thinks that is dead in the water to me. But at the same time, I don't particularly think someone on the terrorist watchlist or who has been previously admitted to a psychiatric facility should be able to go by an AR15. I feel like that's some common sense. I just don't see a lot of common sense by people with extreme political views.

I'm also in Washington. This town used to respect each other regardless of which side of the aisle you are on. Today, not so much and frankly I've grown tired of the political bull****. Both sides to blame for this, so if you think your side is "right" and the other is "wrong" all I can do is laugh my ass off at you. But deep down worry about the world my kids are growing up in.

Today is a sad day...again.

He is a Bernie Bro, the shooter,

(06-14-2017 10:05 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  He is a Bernie Bro, the shooter,

But we have members of the intel departments on this forum telling us not to blame the liberals.

How long before we find out that this was another libturd guy, reported by trump supporters as being violent to them, where the police did not act when they were first notified?

(06-14-2017 09:52 AM)BobcatEngineer Wrote:  There's hate everywhere. Pointing your finger and blaming the other side isn't going to solve anything.

I guess I'll just have to continue to wonder why calls for civility always come from the group accused of incivility.

When so much of current liberalism and progressivism side is awash in real, physically manifested hatred and violence, what did you think is going to happen?

If this person is a left-wing terrorist, and all initial information is pretty clearly moving in that direction, it would behoove liberals and progressives to look inward first before calling for bi-partisan solidarity.

(06-14-2017 10:05 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  He is a Bernie Bro, the shooter,

leftist loon. Imagine my shock.

https://www.facebook.com/jthodgkinson?ls...1497452817