(05-22-2018 09:56 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(05-22-2018 11:29 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 10:24 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 08:47 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 11:03 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  looks like the F_Us are going to start pulling their weight

And to think it took us less than 100 years, who would’ve thought.

You act like the rest of us never won a conference championship before. You're wrong. We've won a bunch. You've won only one.

Do not bother with this guy. La Tech and USM fans hate when FAU and FIU win. It takes away their ability to whine about other schools do not raise the profile of the conference.

FAU still only has one football conference championship ever, while USM has 8 and LA Tech has 25. That's a fact you'll just have to live with.

Once again Florida Atlantic has won 2 football conference titles. So your wrong number is not a fact

We've been playing fbs football for 14 years vs 90
or 100 for some other cusa schools too which will help you guys with numbers ..

We will continue to build as the current conference champions who crushed your school by 25 last year. Now those are real facts

(05-22-2018 12:02 PM)FIUFanatic Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 08:21 PM)banker Wrote:  Not a big fan of going that strong on the rent-a-player system plus a lot of these guys are usually transferring for a reason. If you are going to start for P5 whoever, you're not looking to transfer.

One caveat, if they are a 3 to play 2 or 2 to play 2, that's much better. Guys with one year don't do much for me. Smells like a coach trying to load up as an audition for a better gig.

At least 5 of the 7 former/current 4-Stars transfers (JUCO and FBS teams) have 2 years left, with 2 of them having 3 years of playing eligibility at FIU. May be 6 of 7, and only 1 player, Safety transferr from Rutgers- Kiy Hester- playing only one season. The rest are freshmen, rated the best incoming class in C-USA. I think your "smell" sense is pretty off the mark here.

Go Panthers!

He can speak for himself, but I took what he wrote to mean if they're mostly 1 year players it smells like a coach looking for a bigger job, not that your coach is. And this is because a coach with one foot out the door does not care if the cupboard is bare for his replacement. He's gambling on that one or two special seasons that will get him noticed and then collect a check. Davis has been there and done that, so I doubt very much he is making a power play cash grab and I don't believe Banker thinks that, either. However, if Kiffin starts filling a roster with one and done P5 transfers, that'd be a whole different ballgame.

(05-23-2018 02:39 AM)Ourland Wrote:  

(05-20-2018 07:24 PM)Fish Wrote:  Today, Rutgers graduate transfer, Kiy Hester, announced he will be playing his final season for Butch Davis and the FIU Panthers. Kiy was named an All B1G honorable mention at safety last year, playing for Rutgers. He had 3 INTs, two of which were returned for TDs. With Kiy's addition, that is now seven Panthers that will be eligible for the 2018 season, that did not play last year for FIU, and that were rated as 4-star recruits by a recruiting agency at some point:

1) Tayland Humphrey - DT
2) Teair Tart-Spencer - DT
3) James Morgan - QB
4) CJ Worton - WR
5) D'Antne Demery - OT
6) Jordan Woods - DE
7) Kiy Hester - S

Butch Davis is really increasing the talent level of the roster and the competition in camp. The first 6 guys listed are already all on campus. Kiy should be here soon. Go Panthers! FIU is on the rise.

Any other big time additions to C-USA programs we should know about for the 2018 season?

Keep in mind that these guys didn't make it at the P5 level. Most of them were probably second or third string players who seldom played.

This isn't a fair claim for many of these guys. Kiy Hester competed and played well for a B1G team (was top 30 in all FBS in passes defended last year). Tayland Humphrey and Teair Tart were each one of the two top JUCO DTs in the nation (and each ESPN top 50 JUCO players). Demery also came from the JUCO route and was an US Army All-American in high school. Jordan Woods left Georgia Tech after one year so he didn't realistically even have a shot to compete for a starting gig there, but if you want to say he couldn't make it, then I guess we'll have to see how he plays this year. I think your argument really only applies to CJ Worton and James Morgan. One of Worton's main issues is that he is injury prone, so I am not expecting too much from him. James Morgan got beat out as the starter at Bowling Green, after starting multiple games and after a coaching change, which isn't a good look for sure, but the added competition for the starting QB spot will only help.

FAU has two conference titles, for those keeping track - 2007 and 2017.

(05-23-2018 01:38 AM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(05-22-2018 09:56 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(05-22-2018 11:29 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 10:24 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 08:47 AM)Seminowl Wrote:  And to think it took us less than 100 years, who would’ve thought.

You act like the rest of us never won a conference championship before. You're wrong. We've won a bunch. You've won only one.

Do not bother with this guy. La Tech and USM fans hate when FAU and FIU win. It takes away their ability to whine about other schools do not raise the profile of the conference.

FAU still only has one football conference championship ever, while USM has 8 and LA Tech has 25. That's a fact you'll just have to live with.

Only schools with NO successful history hate to talk about successful histories....or act as if ONE recent conference championship and seven 4 star recruits (whooopie!) makes them overwhelmingly special..

Hope FAU and Florida Int'l Airport win a buncha games to help improve C-USA's stature...but, remember, La Tech and USM have been doing it for a century, and intend on doing it a lot more in the years to come.

USM fears none, but respects all...maybe you guys should give it a try..

I'm not speaking on behalf of the FAU fan here, but on behalf of only myself. You literally called FIU "Florida Int'l Airport"... Yes. Much respect.

I wish USM and LA Tech fans could understand how little we give about your past. It dose nothing for the conference or your CURRENT status. It's about who's hot and fun now.

This is why I always say you guys a nothing but 45 year old dudes wearing lettermen jackets sitting at a bar annoying everyone with the 'We won states" story from 27 years ago.

(05-23-2018 07:47 AM)Fish Wrote:  

(05-23-2018 01:38 AM)eaglebeaver Wrote:  

(05-22-2018 09:56 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(05-22-2018 11:29 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  

(05-21-2018 10:24 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  You act like the rest of us never won a conference championship before. You're wrong. We've won a bunch. You've won only one.

Do not bother with this guy. La Tech and USM fans hate when FAU and FIU win. It takes away their ability to whine about other schools do not raise the profile of the conference.

FAU still only has one football conference championship ever, while USM has 8 and LA Tech has 25. That's a fact you'll just have to live with.

Only schools with NO successful history hate to talk about successful histories....or act as if ONE recent conference championship and seven 4 star recruits (whooopie!) makes them overwhelmingly special..

Hope FAU and Florida Int'l Airport win a buncha games to help improve C-USA's stature...but, remember, La Tech and USM have been doing it for a century, and intend on doing it a lot more in the years to come.

USM fears none, but respects all...maybe you guys should give it a try..

I'm not speaking on behalf of the FAU fan here, but on behalf of only myself. You literally called FIU "Florida Int'l Airport"... Yes. Much respect.

I didn't even catch that. You are right, no one can talk of respect here when such slights happen.

(05-23-2018 08:07 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  I wish USM and LA Tech fans could understand how little we give about your past. It dose nothing for the conference or your CURRENT status. It's about who's hot and fun now.

This is why I always say you guys a nothing but 45 year old dudes wearing lettermen jackets sitting at a bar annoying everyone with the 'We won states" story from 27 years ago.

You speak as if USM and LaTech have owned the bottom 10 for the past decade. If you think that having schools in the conference that have history/tradition do nothing for current status, then you guys should have stayed in the SBC.

USM and LaTech have won more games against better competition than either FAU or FIU in the last decade. This 'old dudes talking about winning back in the day' stuff doesn't make much sense. Sure we aren't beating FSU or Alabama anymore, but neither is anyone else in this conference.

You guys just keep winning and the criticism with stop. We all may not say it, but we were proud of both your schools performance last season and it looks like you both will compete this year. Good luck!

(05-23-2018 08:07 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  I wish USM and LA Tech fans could understand how little we give about your past. It dose nothing for the conference or your CURRENT status. It's about who's hot and fun now.

This is why I always say you guys a nothing but 45 year old dudes wearing lettermen jackets sitting at a bar annoying everyone with the 'We won states" story from 27 years ago.

Were you excited to join CUSA, and if so, why was that? I'd imagine a lot of it had to do with schools you would be competing against in this conference and that has to do with their past and reputation.

Now put yourselves in our shoes. Went from competing against similar schools with similar history and accomplishment to being nearly wiped out and bringing in the best of the rest, or at least the potential to be, to fill the holes. Until last year, most of the schools brought in, sans Tech, hadn't done anything to move the needle in the present and had no past to speak of. There will naturally be a period of waiting to see if some of you will maintain a higher level for an extended period of time.

We've seen the consistently good, the flash in the pan, the roller coaster of slump to brilliant and back to slump. You know, those things that playing for 100 years gives you a look at. So far, WKU is the only one to put multiple good years together in football. Might take a sec to decide that you have a good program rather than a good team. That's not disrespect. That's coming from experience which you so easily dismiss.

(05-23-2018 02:14 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(05-23-2018 08:07 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  I wish USM and LA Tech fans could understand how little we give about your past. It dose nothing for the conference or your CURRENT status. It's about who's hot and fun now.

This is why I always say you guys a nothing but 45 year old dudes wearing lettermen jackets sitting at a bar annoying everyone with the 'We won states" story from 27 years ago.

Were you excited to join CUSA, and if so, why was that? I'd imagine a lot of it had to do with schools you would be competing against in this conference and that has to do with their past and reputation.

Now put yourselves in our shoes. Went from competing against similar schools with similar history and accomplishment to being nearly wiped out and bringing in the best of the rest, or at least the potential to be, to fill the holes. Until last year, most of the schools brought in, sans Tech, hadn't done anything to move the needle in the present and had no past to speak of. There will naturally be a period of waiting to see if some of you will maintain a higher level for an extended period of time.

We've seen the consistently good, the flash in the pan, the roller coaster of slump to brilliant and back to slump. You know, those things that playing for 100 years gives you a look at. So far, WKU is the only one to put multiple good years together in football. Might take a sec to decide that you have a good program rather than a good team. That's not disrespect. That's coming from experience which you so easily dismiss.

Even though your post wasn't directed to me, let me take a crack at it.

When we moved to C-USA, I liked the fact that C-USA had a higher profile than the SunBelt. But, as far as opposition... didn't the SunBelt, basically, outplay C-USA head-to-head the last two years before our move? I did not think we were going up in opposition as much as we were going up in reputation.

(05-23-2018 02:17 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(05-23-2018 02:14 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(05-23-2018 08:07 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  I wish USM and LA Tech fans could understand how little we give about your past. It dose nothing for the conference or your CURRENT status. It's about who's hot and fun now.

This is why I always say you guys a nothing but 45 year old dudes wearing lettermen jackets sitting at a bar annoying everyone with the 'We won states" story from 27 years ago.

Were you excited to join CUSA, and if so, why was that? I'd imagine a lot of it had to do with schools you would be competing against in this conference and that has to do with their past and reputation.

Now put yourselves in our shoes. Went from competing against similar schools with similar history and accomplishment to being nearly wiped out and bringing in the best of the rest, or at least the potential to be, to fill the holes. Until last year, most of the schools brought in, sans Tech, hadn't done anything to move the needle in the present and had no past to speak of. There will naturally be a period of waiting to see if some of you will maintain a higher level for an extended period of time.

We've seen the consistently good, the flash in the pan, the roller coaster of slump to brilliant and back to slump. You know, those things that playing for 100 years gives you a look at. So far, WKU is the only one to put multiple good years together in football. Might take a sec to decide that you have a good program rather than a good team. That's not disrespect. That's coming from experience which you so easily dismiss.

Even though your post wasn't directed to me, let me take a crack at it.

When we moved to C-USA, I liked the fact that C-USA had a higher profile than the SunBelt. But, as far as opposition... didn't the SunBelt, basically, outplay C-USA head-to-head the last two years before our move? I did not think we were going up in opposition as much as we were going up in reputation.

Possibly, but SBC didn't finish in any top 25 poll as CUSA did both years.

2012
UCF 10-4
Tulsa was 11-3 [finished 25 in Coaches poll]

2011
USM 12-2 [finished 20 AP]
UH 13-1 [finished 18 AP]

(05-23-2018 02:17 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(05-23-2018 02:14 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(05-23-2018 08:07 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  I wish USM and LA Tech fans could understand how little we give about your past. It dose nothing for the conference or your CURRENT status. It's about who's hot and fun now.

This is why I always say you guys a nothing but 45 year old dudes wearing lettermen jackets sitting at a bar annoying everyone with the 'We won states" story from 27 years ago.

Were you excited to join CUSA, and if so, why was that? I'd imagine a lot of it had to do with schools you would be competing against in this conference and that has to do with their past and reputation.

Now put yourselves in our shoes. Went from competing against similar schools with similar history and accomplishment to being nearly wiped out and bringing in the best of the rest, or at least the potential to be, to fill the holes. Until last year, most of the schools brought in, sans Tech, hadn't done anything to move the needle in the present and had no past to speak of. There will naturally be a period of waiting to see if some of you will maintain a higher level for an extended period of time.

We've seen the consistently good, the flash in the pan, the roller coaster of slump to brilliant and back to slump. You know, those things that playing for 100 years gives you a look at. So far, WKU is the only one to put multiple good years together in football. Might take a sec to decide that you have a good program rather than a good team. That's not disrespect. That's coming from experience which you so easily dismiss.

Even though your post wasn't directed to me, let me take a crack at it.

When we moved to C-USA, I liked the fact that C-USA had a higher profile than the SunBelt. But, as far as opposition... didn't the SunBelt, basically, outplay C-USA head-to-head the last two years before our move? I did not think we were going up in opposition as much as we were going up in reputation.

Well yeah, reputation is based on history and the other guy said history didn't matter. So, that's kind of the point.

(05-23-2018 08:07 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  I wish USM and LA Tech fans could understand how little we give about your past. It dose nothing for the conference or your CURRENT status. It's about who's hot and fun now.

This is why I always say you guys a nothing but 45 year old dudes wearing lettermen jackets sitting at a bar annoying everyone with the 'We won states" story from 27 years ago.

Hey, we won our bowl game by about 45 points in December. And it was our 4th bowl win in a row, with wins over Illinois, Ark St, Navy and SMU. I'd say LA Tech is doing pretty darn good. That's pretty hot and fun.

(05-23-2018 02:14 PM)MUther Wrote:  

(05-23-2018 08:07 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  I wish USM and LA Tech fans could understand how little we give about your past. It dose nothing for the conference or your CURRENT status. It's about who's hot and fun now.

This is why I always say you guys a nothing but 45 year old dudes wearing lettermen jackets sitting at a bar annoying everyone with the 'We won states" story from 27 years ago.

Were you excited to join CUSA, and if so, why was that? I'd imagine a lot of it had to do with schools you would be competing against in this conference and that has to do with their past and reputation.

Now put yourselves in our shoes. Went from competing against similar schools with similar history and accomplishment to being nearly wiped out and bringing in the best of the rest, or at least the potential to be, to fill the holes. Until last year, most of the schools brought in, sans Tech, hadn't done anything to move the needle in the present and had no past to speak of. There will naturally be a period of waiting to see if some of you will maintain a higher level for an extended period of time.

We've seen the consistently good, the flash in the pan, the roller coaster of slump to brilliant and back to slump. You know, those things that playing for 100 years gives you a look at. So far, WKU is the only one to put multiple good years together in football. Might take a sec to decide that you have a good program rather than a good team. That's not disrespect. That's coming from experience which you so easily dismiss.

Good Post, I agree WKU is the only one so far.

(05-24-2018 11:59 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(05-23-2018 08:07 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  I wish USM and LA Tech fans could understand how little we give about your past. It dose nothing for the conference or your CURRENT status. It's about who's hot and fun now.

This is why I always say you guys a nothing but 45 year old dudes wearing lettermen jackets sitting at a bar annoying everyone with the 'We won states" story from 27 years ago.

Hey, we won our bowl game by about 45 points in December. And it was our 4th bowl win in a row, with wins over Illinois, Ark St, Navy and SMU. I'd say LA Tech is doing pretty darn good. That's pretty hot and fun.

Hey now FAU took the Akron Zips to the woodshed

FAU still needs a signature win to get any respect. Losing to Navy by 40 and Buffalo will not garner any respect

(05-25-2018 01:01 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-24-2018 11:59 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(05-23-2018 08:07 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  I wish USM and LA Tech fans could understand how little we give about your past. It dose nothing for the conference or your CURRENT status. It's about who's hot and fun now.

This is why I always say you guys a nothing but 45 year old dudes wearing lettermen jackets sitting at a bar annoying everyone with the 'We won states" story from 27 years ago.

Hey, we won our bowl game by about 45 points in December. And it was our 4th bowl win in a row, with wins over Illinois, Ark St, Navy and SMU. I'd say LA Tech is doing pretty darn good. That's pretty hot and fun.

Hey now FAU took the Akron Zips to the woodshed

FAU still needs a signature win to get any respect. Losing to Navy by 40 and Buffalo will not garner any respect

Took your school to the woodshed too

Navy loss was by 23 in the first game with a new staff. You have trouble with facts

But we don't need to talk about other losses last year Beat the hell out of your school head to head and went undefeated in the conference

(05-25-2018 01:30 PM)Ragu Wrote:  

(05-25-2018 01:01 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(05-24-2018 11:59 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  

(05-23-2018 08:07 AM)owlcountry40 Wrote:  I wish USM and LA Tech fans could understand how little we give about your past. It dose nothing for the conference or your CURRENT status. It's about who's hot and fun now.

This is why I always say you guys a nothing but 45 year old dudes wearing lettermen jackets sitting at a bar annoying everyone with the 'We won states" story from 27 years ago.

Hey, we won our bowl game by about 45 points in December. And it was our 4th bowl win in a row, with wins over Illinois, Ark St, Navy and SMU. I'd say LA Tech is doing pretty darn good. That's pretty hot and fun.

Hey now FAU took the Akron Zips to the woodshed

FAU still needs a signature win to get any respect. Losing to Navy by 40 and Buffalo will not garner any respect

Took your school to the woodshed too

Navy loss was by 23 in the first game with a new staff. You have trouble with facts

But we don't need to talk about other losses last year Beat the hell out of your school head to head and went undefeated in the conference

Well, at least, he no longer says that we lost to Navy by 50. Even Dawgie can learn apparently! :)

(05-23-2018 07:45 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  FAU has two conference titles, for those keeping track - 2007 and 2017.

We in Pike County choose not to recognize your 2007 title. It was a dark December for all Troy fans.

It is a shame FAU doesn't have the fan support in the stands that their team deserves. Why is that?

They don't give away 5 dollar seats to get attendance numbers inflated for one