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RE: Could our new contract prompt our expansion?
(07-31-2018 01:49 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(07-31-2018 11:14 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  If the AAC gets over $6mm per, then every G5 school will be begging to get into the conference. We would also have a viable shot at BYU. Simply put, it would be a major game changer. Currently, no one makes more than $1.5mm (outside of BYU at about $4.5mm and boise at about $3mm).

I thought I remembered hearing that BYU made something like $8 million

I thought it was $6, but according to the source I linked in a prior post it's only $4.5.
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(07-31-2018 02:33 PM)Chappy Wrote:  
(07-31-2018 01:49 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(07-31-2018 11:14 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  If the AAC gets over $6mm per, then every G5 school will be begging to get into the conference. We would also have a viable shot at BYU. Simply put, it would be a major game changer. Currently, no one makes more than $1.5mm (outside of BYU at about $4.5mm and boise at about $3mm).

I thought I remembered hearing that BYU made something like $8 million

I thought it was $6, but according to the source I linked in a prior post it's only $4.5.
https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...eart-deal/

For Boise, this article says $2.9mm, but it's from 2017. BYU is $4.5 as referenced in the previous article. If Boise can double their TV revenue and have the best conference to allow them access to a NY6 bowl, they will do it. This TV negotiation is just so huge for the AAC in so many ways.
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RE: Could our new contract prompt our expansion?
(07-31-2018 03:00 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  
(07-31-2018 02:33 PM)Chappy Wrote:  
(07-31-2018 01:49 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  
(07-31-2018 11:14 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  If the AAC gets over $6mm per, then every G5 school will be begging to get into the conference. We would also have a viable shot at BYU. Simply put, it would be a major game changer. Currently, no one makes more than $1.5mm (outside of BYU at about $4.5mm and boise at about $3mm).

I thought I remembered hearing that BYU made something like $8 million

I thought it was $6, but according to the source I linked in a prior post it's only $4.5.
https://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.co...eart-deal/

For Boise, this article says $2.9mm, but it's from 2017. BYU is $4.5 as referenced in the previous article. If Boise can double their TV revenue and have the best conference to allow them access to a NY6 bowl, they will do it. This TV negotiation is just so huge for the AAC in so many ways.

Let's hope we can get the maximum tv amount without the need to expand. I personally do not envy the conferences like the SEC and ACC who rarely see the opponents they share a conference with.
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RE: Could our new contract prompt our expansion?
The $Money$ matters, but there is more to expansion than just the new contract. If we were to add any four: Boise, BYU, Air Froce, Colorado State, Fresno, or SDSU. We should be moving to monopolize the NY6 birth. Monopolize the NY6 birth and the that will Make us a de facto P6 after 5 years. More directly, we need to take every action to widen the gulf between us and the MWC, CUSA, MAC, and Sunbelt. Stealing Boise, CSU, SDSU, BYU etc will go along way to weakening the MWC(Sorry MWC). Also as stated earlier, gaining reasonable access to that 7, 7:30 Pacific Time slot should help access. People in Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, Tampa, Orlando and Memphis would be more likely to tune in to watch Memphis, UH, Tulane, USF, UCF and SMU after the big 12/Sec games are over.
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(07-31-2018 03:53 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  The $Money$ matters, but there is more to expansion than just the new contract. If we were to add any four: Boise, BYU, Air Froce, Colorado State, Fresno, or SDSU. We should be moving to monopolize the NY6 birth. Monopolize the NY6 birth and the that will Make us a de facto P6 after 5 years. More directly, we need to take every action to widen the gulf between us and the MWC, CUSA, MAC, and Sunbelt. Stealing Boise, CSU, SDSU, BYU etc will go along way to weakening the MWC(Sorry MWC). Also as stated earlier, gaining reasonable access to that 7, 7:30 Pacific Time slot should help access. People in Houston, Dallas, New Orleans, Tampa, Orlando and Memphis would be more likely to tune in to watch Memphis, UH, Tulane, USF, UCF and SMU after the big 12/Sec games are over.

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That gap is already widening without spreading the conference too thin, across the entire country. The best way to speed that widening is not poaching more members, but having the already existing members pull their weight. Cinci and ECU need to get back with the program, and overall as a conference we just need to continue to improve in attendance, viewership, postseason access, and travelling. We don't need to steal anyone to do that.
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RE: Could our new contract prompt our expansion?
We don't need to expand. Just show me the money and keep on keeping on. Let Boise rot on the MWC vine.
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(07-31-2018 04:50 PM)goodknightfl Wrote:  We don't need to expand. Just show me the money and keep on keeping on. Let Boise rot on the MWC vine.

I get the hate for Boise but they are not just going away. They are the AAC's biggest obstacle to getting the NY6 every year because they are media darlings still and they have an easier route thru the MWC. I say if the money is right, add them as well as BYU and you are damaging the MWC as much as you are helping the AAC. I personally believe this would get us an automatic bid when the time comes.
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RE: Could our new contract prompt our expansion?
Adding Boise State and BYU gives the AAC a foothold into talent-rich Utah and southwestern Idaho. Uh, never mind.
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Adding BYU and Boise gives the AAC the two largest fan bases reasonably available.
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RE: Could our new contract prompt our expansion?
(07-31-2018 05:46 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Adding BYU and Boise gives the AAC the two largest fan bases reasonably available.

And a Thanksgiving Weekend-worthy rivalry game.
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(07-31-2018 05:46 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Adding BYU and Boise gives the AAC the two largest fan bases reasonably available.

San Deigo State averaged 28,619 in 2017 and has increased attendance 3 straight seasons
Boise State averaged 31,126 in 2017 and has decreased attendance 4 straight seasons

thats only a difference of 2,500 fans reported and I would argue that San Diego State given its fantastic market is a better futures bet that Boise State is at this point, especially with the Chargers no longer in the picture
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(08-01-2018 08:44 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  
(07-31-2018 05:46 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Adding BYU and Boise gives the AAC the two largest fan bases reasonably available.

San Deigo State averaged 28,619 in 2017 and has increased attendance 3 straight seasons
Boise State averaged 31,126 in 2017 and has decreased attendance 4 straight seasons

thats only a difference of 2,500 fans reported and I would argue that San Diego State given its fantastic market is a better futures bet that Boise State is at this point, especially with the Chargers no longer in the picture

Agreed. The Boise fan base isn't all that special, particularly considering how good they've been over the years.
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(08-01-2018 10:44 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
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(07-31-2018 05:46 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Adding BYU and Boise gives the AAC the two largest fan bases reasonably available.

San Deigo State averaged 28,619 in 2017 and has increased attendance 3 straight seasons
Boise State averaged 31,126 in 2017 and has decreased attendance 4 straight seasons

thats only a difference of 2,500 fans reported and I would argue that San Diego State given its fantastic market is a better futures bet that Boise State is at this point, especially with the Chargers no longer in the picture

Agreed. The Boise fan base isn't all that special, particularly considering how good they've been over the years.

Say it louder...I actually see Boise 2017 attendance 31,126 as above, but SanDiego State 2017 39,347. SDSU>BSU in 2016 also.
http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statis...attendance

(SDSU in the rare situation of a G4 having attendance greater than all AAC teams. Boise would be seventh in the AAC)
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I predict Memphis will average over 42,000 this coming year.
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(08-01-2018 12:03 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  I predict Memphis will average over 42,000 this coming year.

if it doesn't rain at some point during 5 of our 7 home game days again, yes
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(08-01-2018 11:33 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(08-01-2018 10:44 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(08-01-2018 08:44 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  
(07-31-2018 05:46 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Adding BYU and Boise gives the AAC the two largest fan bases reasonably available.

San Deigo State averaged 28,619 in 2017 and has increased attendance 3 straight seasons
Boise State averaged 31,126 in 2017 and has decreased attendance 4 straight seasons

thats only a difference of 2,500 fans reported and I would argue that San Diego State given its fantastic market is a better futures bet that Boise State is at this point, especially with the Chargers no longer in the picture

Agreed. The Boise fan base isn't all that special, particularly considering how good they've been over the years.

Say it louder...I actually see Boise 2017 attendance 31,126 as above, but SanDiego State 2017 39,347. SDSU>BSU in 2016 also.
http://www.ncaa.org/championships/statis...attendance

(SDSU in the rare situation of a G4 having attendance greater than all AAC teams. Boise would be seventh in the AAC)

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(08-01-2018 12:14 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  
(08-01-2018 12:03 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  I predict Memphis will average over 42,000 this coming year.

if it doesn't rain at some point during 5 of our 7 home game days again, yes

Another thing people don't realize is we report turnstile counts, NOT tickets sold, as do most other schools. And...we have a small student turnout. Both major sports.
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(08-01-2018 08:44 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  I would argue that San Diego State given its fantastic market is a better futures bet than Boise State is at this point, especially with the Chargers no longer in the picture
Did SDSU get their stadium situation worked out?
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(07-31-2018 06:36 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(07-31-2018 05:46 PM)Chappy Wrote:  Adding BYU and Boise gives the AAC the two largest fan bases reasonably available.

And a Thanksgiving Weekend-worthy rivalry game.

Nice, tied in with Usf/Ucf.
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(08-01-2018 12:14 PM)tigerjeb Wrote:  
(08-01-2018 12:03 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  I predict Memphis will average over 42,000 this coming year.

if it doesn't rain at some point during 5 of our 7 home game days again, yes

You guys aren't supposed to take the term Fair-Weather fan LITERALLY ...
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