The Grape King
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RE: Could our new contract prompt our expansion?
(08-08-2018 10:50 AM)panite Wrote: (08-07-2018 07:22 PM)The Grape King Wrote: The conference needs to expand around ceiling and culture, not best of the rest. What does Southern Miss add? Athletic mediocrity and a small market? I don't understand how they're on anyone's radar at all.
UMass: one of the biggest brands in New England college sports, flagship research university with great academic reputation, basketball history, good and improving basketball facilities, a program that anyone could expect would see a huge jump in recruiting exposure joining the conference. Football would need a stadium commitment first. UMass-UConn becomes the biggest non Patriots football game in New England every year. Gets Boston media market.
URI: Would give the conference all 3 flagships in lower New England, creates a great 3 way basketball rivalry. Has shown commitment to spend to keep basketball competitive.
Old Dominion: major market with no professional sports competition, large public research school
VCU: public research school, penetrates DC, excellent attendance, consistent winner on the court
This kind of strategy, aside from developing the Northeast/East Coast, the most important sports media region in the country, builds a more sustainable model in big markets and establishes a strong cultural identity, which is huge for the value of the brand.
If the conference is absolutely dead set on the current track (which of course it is, so don't get married to your affection for this league), SDSU, UNLV should be first. Beyond that, who knows.
I like the idea of going for broke and trying to use a new model, 30 teams two divisions coast to coast. I think there's some value there.
This idea of drawing teams away from the P5 with exorbitant payments is interesting, I guess. I don't think it's anywhere close to possible, but I think you'd have to look at Rutgers first. Can't imagine the viewership and value the Big Ten thought Rutgers would pull from New York (there are probably more Buffalo alum in NY than Rutgers) is worth Rutgers getting stomped in revenue sports every year. It might be a win win win.
A UConn / BC annual rivalry would be bigger than the one with UMASS.
Don't see the AAC building the conference in the Northeast like the OBE did. The ACC and the NBE have already locked down the NE and East Coast with old BE teams. Not only that, the AAC is currently looking at moving it's headquarters to the Dallas / Fort worth area which will abandon the NE except for UConn and Temple. Temple will be on an island like WV in the B-12 when UConn gets a golden parachute out of the league in the next realignment period. Their nearest conference mate will be Navy and they are in the Western Division of the conference. Although I will say Navy does play a game just about every year in Philly in the same stadium as Temple. However the game is against Army
The AAC is NEVER going to get Rutgers or any other P5 school to leave a P5 conference that has a license to print money for the payouts they are currently receiving.
Obviously UConn/BC is the historic rivalry, but A., BC isn't available, B., BC doesn't really work with what the conference is trying to build, C., BC and UConn have been separated for what, 10 years? 15? That's a lot of student and alum that don't really know the rivalry. UConn/UMass could become an excellent rivalry. Both major public flagships, both have huge bases of local alumni, close in proximity. Having all 3 of those schools I think would be extremely valuable.
In my opinion, the northeast isn't entirely locked down by other conferences. The one major brand the ACC has is Syracuse, and the only other school in the northeast is BC. The value of the Big East brands are mostly dependent on major success on the court, as most schools are pretty small. Does St. John's really move the needle? Providence? If you have 4 major public northeast schools, plus say VCU and Old Dominion, that's a serious force in the region, I would guess.
I know a P5 school can't be wooed, I was just entertaining the if. However, I could see the Big Ten not wanting to drag Rutgers' dead weight around forever.
I might sound like a Temple homer, but I can't see a reason UConn gets an invite to a major conference over Temple, unless UConn puts a powerhouse product on the court between now and then (which is entirely possible). Philly is a much better market to gamble on, media and recruiting. I think our stadium would be a massive help for our resumé, but it may never happen.
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