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(08-07-2018 07:22 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  The conference needs to expand around ceiling and culture, not best of the rest. What does Southern Miss add? Athletic mediocrity and a small market? I don't understand how they're on anyone's radar at all.

UMass: one of the biggest brands in New England college sports, flagship research university with great academic reputation, basketball history, good and improving basketball facilities, a program that anyone could expect would see a huge jump in recruiting exposure joining the conference. Football would need a stadium commitment first. UMass-UConn becomes the biggest non Patriots football game in New England every year. Gets Boston media market.

URI: Would give the conference all 3 flagships in lower New England, creates a great 3 way basketball rivalry. Has shown commitment to spend to keep basketball competitive.

Old Dominion: major market with no professional sports competition, large public research school

VCU: public research school, penetrates DC, excellent attendance, consistent winner on the court

This kind of strategy, aside from developing the Northeast/East Coast, the most important sports media region in the country, builds a more sustainable model in big markets and establishes a strong cultural identity, which is huge for the value of the brand.

If the conference is absolutely dead set on the current track (which of course it is, so don't get married to your affection for this league), SDSU, UNLV should be first. Beyond that, who knows.

I like the idea of going for broke and trying to use a new model, 30 teams two divisions coast to coast. I think there's some value there.

This idea of drawing teams away from the P5 with exorbitant payments is interesting, I guess. I don't think it's anywhere close to possible, but I think you'd have to look at Rutgers first. Can't imagine the viewership and value the Big Ten thought Rutgers would pull from New York (there are probably more Buffalo alum in NY than Rutgers) is worth Rutgers getting stomped in revenue sports every year. It might be a win win win.

A UConn / BC annual rivalry would be bigger than the one with UMASS. Rimshot


Don't see the AAC building the conference in the Northeast like the OBE did. The ACC and the NBE have already locked down the NE and East Coast with old BE teams. Not only that, the AAC is currently looking at moving it's headquarters to the Dallas / Fort worth area which will abandon the NE except for UConn and Temple. Temple will be on an island like WV in the B-12 when UConn gets a golden parachute out of the league in the next realignment period. Their nearest conference mate will be Navy and they are in the Western Division of the conference. Although I will say Navy does play a game just about every year in Philly in the same stadium as Temple. However the game is against Army 04-jawdrop


The AAC is NEVER going to get Rutgers or any other P5 school to leave a P5 conference that has a license to print money for the payouts they are currently receiving. 01-donnankungfu 02-13-banana 03-drunk 03-nutkick 03-shhhh 03-idea COGS 04-cheers
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(08-08-2018 10:50 AM)panite Wrote:  
(08-07-2018 07:22 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  The conference needs to expand around ceiling and culture, not best of the rest. What does Southern Miss add? Athletic mediocrity and a small market? I don't understand how they're on anyone's radar at all.

UMass: one of the biggest brands in New England college sports, flagship research university with great academic reputation, basketball history, good and improving basketball facilities, a program that anyone could expect would see a huge jump in recruiting exposure joining the conference. Football would need a stadium commitment first. UMass-UConn becomes the biggest non Patriots football game in New England every year. Gets Boston media market.

URI: Would give the conference all 3 flagships in lower New England, creates a great 3 way basketball rivalry. Has shown commitment to spend to keep basketball competitive.

Old Dominion: major market with no professional sports competition, large public research school

VCU: public research school, penetrates DC, excellent attendance, consistent winner on the court

This kind of strategy, aside from developing the Northeast/East Coast, the most important sports media region in the country, builds a more sustainable model in big markets and establishes a strong cultural identity, which is huge for the value of the brand.

If the conference is absolutely dead set on the current track (which of course it is, so don't get married to your affection for this league), SDSU, UNLV should be first. Beyond that, who knows.

I like the idea of going for broke and trying to use a new model, 30 teams two divisions coast to coast. I think there's some value there.

This idea of drawing teams away from the P5 with exorbitant payments is interesting, I guess. I don't think it's anywhere close to possible, but I think you'd have to look at Rutgers first. Can't imagine the viewership and value the Big Ten thought Rutgers would pull from New York (there are probably more Buffalo alum in NY than Rutgers) is worth Rutgers getting stomped in revenue sports every year. It might be a win win win.

A UConn / BC annual rivalry would be bigger than the one with UMASS. Rimshot


Don't see the AAC building the conference in the Northeast like the OBE did. The ACC and the NBE have already locked down the NE and East Coast with old BE teams. Not only that, the AAC is currently looking at moving it's headquarters to the Dallas / Fort worth area which will abandon the NE except for UConn and Temple. Temple will be on an island like WV in the B-12 when UConn gets a golden parachute out of the league in the next realignment period. Their nearest conference mate will be Navy and they are in the Western Division of the conference. Although I will say Navy does play a game just about every year in Philly in the same stadium as Temple. However the game is against Army 04-jawdrop


The AAC is NEVER going to get Rutgers or any other P5 school to leave a P5 conference that has a license to print money for the payouts they are currently receiving. 01-donnankungfu 02-13-banana 03-drunk 03-nutkick 03-shhhh 03-idea COGS 04-cheers
That's fine as we have no interest in Rutgers although they will be right back with us after the next realignment in 2024
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(08-08-2018 10:59 AM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(08-08-2018 10:50 AM)panite Wrote:  
(08-07-2018 07:22 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  The conference needs to expand around ceiling and culture, not best of the rest. What does Southern Miss add? Athletic mediocrity and a small market? I don't understand how they're on anyone's radar at all.

UMass: one of the biggest brands in New England college sports, flagship research university with great academic reputation, basketball history, good and improving basketball facilities, a program that anyone could expect would see a huge jump in recruiting exposure joining the conference. Football would need a stadium commitment first. UMass-UConn becomes the biggest non Patriots football game in New England every year. Gets Boston media market.

URI: Would give the conference all 3 flagships in lower New England, creates a great 3 way basketball rivalry. Has shown commitment to spend to keep basketball competitive.

Old Dominion: major market with no professional sports competition, large public research school

VCU: public research school, penetrates DC, excellent attendance, consistent winner on the court

This kind of strategy, aside from developing the Northeast/East Coast, the most important sports media region in the country, builds a more sustainable model in big markets and establishes a strong cultural identity, which is huge for the value of the brand.

If the conference is absolutely dead set on the current track (which of course it is, so don't get married to your affection for this league), SDSU, UNLV should be first. Beyond that, who knows.

I like the idea of going for broke and trying to use a new model, 30 teams two divisions coast to coast. I think there's some value there.

This idea of drawing teams away from the P5 with exorbitant payments is interesting, I guess. I don't think it's anywhere close to possible, but I think you'd have to look at Rutgers first. Can't imagine the viewership and value the Big Ten thought Rutgers would pull from New York (there are probably more Buffalo alum in NY than Rutgers) is worth Rutgers getting stomped in revenue sports every year. It might be a win win win.

A UConn / BC annual rivalry would be bigger than the one with UMASS. Rimshot


Don't see the AAC building the conference in the Northeast like the OBE did. The ACC and the NBE have already locked down the NE and East Coast with old BE teams. Not only that, the AAC is currently looking at moving it's headquarters to the Dallas / Fort worth area which will abandon the NE except for UConn and Temple. Temple will be on an island like WV in the B-12 when UConn gets a golden parachute out of the league in the next realignment period. Their nearest conference mate will be Navy and they are in the Western Division of the conference. Although I will say Navy does play a game just about every year in Philly in the same stadium as Temple. However the game is against Army 04-jawdrop


The AAC is NEVER going to get Rutgers or any other P5 school to leave a P5 conference that has a license to print money for the payouts they are currently receiving. 01-donnankungfu 02-13-banana 03-drunk 03-nutkick 03-shhhh 03-idea COGS 04-cheers
That's fine as we have no interest in Rutgers although they will be right back with us after the next realignment in 2024

Doubt that but the AAC might lose at least one school if the B-12 expands in 2024. Could lose more schools depending on BYU's status then. We'll just have to wait and see. 07-coffee3
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(08-07-2018 10:45 PM)panama Wrote:  It’s good to have the same thread four times a year...


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Byu fans really want to play in the AAC ... I don't want them. Here's why.
1. No Sunday play
2. Fans don't drink ... (Can't Trust ' Em)
3. They fight like girls
4. They can't get over that fight ... Still posts daily on their MB
5. They are no doubt the dirtiest FB team in the country ... Mormons ... Dirty ... Ain't Right !
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RE: Could our new contract prompt our expansion?
(08-07-2018 07:22 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  The conference needs to expand around ceiling and culture, not best of the rest. What does Southern Miss add? Athletic mediocrity and a small market? I don't understand how they're on anyone's radar at all.

UMass: one of the biggest brands in New England college sports, flagship research university with great academic reputation, basketball history, good and improving basketball facilities, a program that anyone could expect would see a huge jump in recruiting exposure joining the conference. Football would need a stadium commitment first. UMass-UConn becomes the biggest non Patriots football game in New England every year. Gets Boston media market.

URI: Would give the conference all 3 flagships in lower New England, creates a great 3 way basketball rivalry. Has shown commitment to spend to keep basketball competitive.

Old Dominion: major market with no professional sports competition, large public research school

VCU: public research school, penetrates DC, excellent attendance, consistent winner on the court

This kind of strategy, aside from developing the Northeast/East Coast, the most important sports media region in the country, builds a more sustainable model in big markets and establishes a strong cultural identity, which is huge for the value of the brand.

If the conference is absolutely dead set on the current track (which of course it is, so don't get married to your affection for this league), SDSU, UNLV should be first. Beyond that, who knows.

I like the idea of going for broke and trying to use a new model, 30 teams two divisions coast to coast. I think there's some value there.

This idea of drawing teams away from the P5 with exorbitant payments is interesting, I guess. I don't think it's anywhere close to possible, but I think you'd have to look at Rutgers first. Can't imagine the viewership and value the Big Ten thought Rutgers would pull from New York (there are probably more Buffalo alum in NY than Rutgers) is worth Rutgers getting stomped in revenue sports every year. It might be a win win win.

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(08-08-2018 08:14 PM)steves Wrote:  Byu fans really want to play in the AAC ... I don't want them. Here's why.
1. No Sunday play
2. Fans don't drink ... (Can't Trust ' Em)
3. They fight like girls
4. They can't get over that fight ... Still posts daily on their MB
5. They are no doubt the dirtiest FB team in the country ... Mormons ... Dirty ... Ain't Right !

1 meh 2 more beer for you 3 so you beat them on the field twice 4 you beat them via score and then with your fists. It was entertaining. 5 They are dirty. I’ve got no rebuttal.
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RE: Could our new contract prompt our expansion?
(08-08-2018 08:14 PM)steves Wrote:  Byu fans really want to play in the AAC ... I don't want them. Here's why.
1. No Sunday play
2. Fans don't drink ... (Can't Trust ' Em)
3. They fight like girls
4. They can't get over that fight ... Still posts daily on their MB
5. They are no doubt the dirtiest FB team in the country ... Mormons ... Dirty ... Ain't Right !
Not sure why people keep bringing up Sunday play when likely a FB only add. How many college football games are played on Sundays. Almost none other than Week 1 or Bowl Season. Completely irrelevant. BYU won't join a conference until they are forced or it's the Big 12. If they can't secure bowls, NY6 access, recruits, scheduling etc. only then would they join the AAC. Personally I would be open to them and another western football only (Air Force for example) or MAYBE Colorado St as an all-sports member. Bring in VCU as a non-football member to offset BYU in that scenario. 14/14

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(08-09-2018 09:52 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  
(08-08-2018 08:14 PM)steves Wrote:  Byu fans really want to play in the AAC ... I don't want them. Here's why.
1. No Sunday play
2. Fans don't drink ... (Can't Trust ' Em)
3. They fight like girls
4. They can't get over that fight ... Still posts daily on their MB
5. They are no doubt the dirtiest FB team in the country ... Mormons ... Dirty ... Ain't Right !
Not sure why people keep bringing up Sunday play when likely a FB only add. How many college football games are played on Sundays. Almost none other than Week 1 or Bowl Season. Completely irrelevant. BYU won't join a conference until they are forced or it's the Big 12. If they can't secure bowls, NY6 access, recruits, scheduling etc. only then would they join the AAC. Personally I would be open to them and another western football only (Air Force for example) or MAYBE Colorado St as an all-sports member. Bring in VCU as a non-football member to offset BYU in that scenario. 14/14

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Colorado State, Air Force (football only), and VCU. That would do it for me.

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(08-08-2018 10:50 AM)panite Wrote:  
(08-07-2018 07:22 PM)The Grape King Wrote:  The conference needs to expand around ceiling and culture, not best of the rest. What does Southern Miss add? Athletic mediocrity and a small market? I don't understand how they're on anyone's radar at all.

UMass: one of the biggest brands in New England college sports, flagship research university with great academic reputation, basketball history, good and improving basketball facilities, a program that anyone could expect would see a huge jump in recruiting exposure joining the conference. Football would need a stadium commitment first. UMass-UConn becomes the biggest non Patriots football game in New England every year. Gets Boston media market.

URI: Would give the conference all 3 flagships in lower New England, creates a great 3 way basketball rivalry. Has shown commitment to spend to keep basketball competitive.

Old Dominion: major market with no professional sports competition, large public research school

VCU: public research school, penetrates DC, excellent attendance, consistent winner on the court

This kind of strategy, aside from developing the Northeast/East Coast, the most important sports media region in the country, builds a more sustainable model in big markets and establishes a strong cultural identity, which is huge for the value of the brand.

If the conference is absolutely dead set on the current track (which of course it is, so don't get married to your affection for this league), SDSU, UNLV should be first. Beyond that, who knows.

I like the idea of going for broke and trying to use a new model, 30 teams two divisions coast to coast. I think there's some value there.

This idea of drawing teams away from the P5 with exorbitant payments is interesting, I guess. I don't think it's anywhere close to possible, but I think you'd have to look at Rutgers first. Can't imagine the viewership and value the Big Ten thought Rutgers would pull from New York (there are probably more Buffalo alum in NY than Rutgers) is worth Rutgers getting stomped in revenue sports every year. It might be a win win win.

A UConn / BC annual rivalry would be bigger than the one with UMASS. Rimshot


Don't see the AAC building the conference in the Northeast like the OBE did. The ACC and the NBE have already locked down the NE and East Coast with old BE teams. Not only that, the AAC is currently looking at moving it's headquarters to the Dallas / Fort worth area which will abandon the NE except for UConn and Temple. Temple will be on an island like WV in the B-12 when UConn gets a golden parachute out of the league in the next realignment period. Their nearest conference mate will be Navy and they are in the Western Division of the conference. Although I will say Navy does play a game just about every year in Philly in the same stadium as Temple. However the game is against Army 04-jawdrop


The AAC is NEVER going to get Rutgers or any other P5 school to leave a P5 conference that has a license to print money for the payouts they are currently receiving. 01-donnankungfu 02-13-banana 03-drunk 03-nutkick 03-shhhh 03-idea COGS 04-cheers


Obviously UConn/BC is the historic rivalry, but A., BC isn't available, B., BC doesn't really work with what the conference is trying to build, C., BC and UConn have been separated for what, 10 years? 15? That's a lot of student and alum that don't really know the rivalry. UConn/UMass could become an excellent rivalry. Both major public flagships, both have huge bases of local alumni, close in proximity. Having all 3 of those schools I think would be extremely valuable.

In my opinion, the northeast isn't entirely locked down by other conferences. The one major brand the ACC has is Syracuse, and the only other school in the northeast is BC. The value of the Big East brands are mostly dependent on major success on the court, as most schools are pretty small. Does St. John's really move the needle? Providence? If you have 4 major public northeast schools, plus say VCU and Old Dominion, that's a serious force in the region, I would guess.

I know a P5 school can't be wooed, I was just entertaining the if. However, I could see the Big Ten not wanting to drag Rutgers' dead weight around forever.

I might sound like a Temple homer, but I can't see a reason UConn gets an invite to a major conference over Temple, unless UConn puts a powerhouse product on the court between now and then (which is entirely possible). Philly is a much better market to gamble on, media and recruiting. I think our stadium would be a massive help for our resumé, but it may never happen.
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