(08-11-2018 09:23 PM)DavidSt Wrote: Northern Iowa wanted to go FBS in 2013. Get West Texas A&M to move up? They could be a better fit for New Mexico State. Northern Arizona have an FBS dome. We do not know who might want to move over. I thought the WAC wanted to expand before July 1st, but they have not. It would be hard to get any D1 to jump to the WAc right now. You may have to invite D2 schools that have stadiums that is over 15,000 stadium or as low as 10,000 to move up. Central Oklahoma, Dixie State and Azusa Pacific have below 15,000, but they could expand. AP is not that far from the Rose Bowl to use until they get their stadium upgraded. There are a couple of Lone Star schools that do play in stadiums over 15,000 already. They could be the future WAC FBS as well.
(08-12-2018 02:10 PM)DavidSt Wrote: D2 schools could get an FBS invite. That is the only way they could join fBS skipping FCS. Back in 1996? UAB went from D3 Independent to become D1A Independent. That same year, UCF went from D2 Independent to 1A Independent. These schools could not do it today. North Alabama was thinking of asking the SBC if they will let them join. The issue is you can not join FBS unless you get an conference invite. If the WAC sends West Texas A&M an invite? Under the new rules? They can transaction to FBS from D1. The first year could be an a Independent year as long as they can get FBS schools to schedule them. I think New Mexico State, UTSA, New Mexico and UTEP could schedule them. They could also get Liberty and UMass. as well. They could play bodybag games with Arizona, Arizona State and Texas Tech. That would be like 9 easy to schedule. The other three could be against FCS opponents the first year. The second year it have to be 11 games or 10 games against FBS oppoenents and 2 against FCS. When the WAC finally gets to sponsor FBS football? D2 schools would be already finished the transition to D1.
(08-13-2018 07:12 AM)DavidSt Wrote: Then, UAB football at D3 and upgraded to FBS.
UCF football at D2 and upgraded to FBS.
I remember Buffalo's football team was in D3. Saw scores between them and Buffalo State, a cross town rivals back then.
Now, since there are no rules saying a D2 school could be invited to FBS, but that NAIA and D3 schools can not since they have to make a stop at D2 for 8 years before they could move up. Right now, West Texas A&M, UTPB, University of Charleston, Kingsville, Commerce, Midwestern State, Valdosta State and maybe schools like Central Missouri, Azusa Pacific, Central Oklahoma, Grand Valley State, Dixie State and Slippery Rock all have stadiums at the FBS levels or could have temp seatings that could reach 15,000.
Azusa Pacific, LA TV market could be a future MWC candidate if the LA area Big West schools do not restart their programs.
West Texas A&M in the Amarillo tv market could be a future candidate. Build up the stadiums for the city and for the on-campus. Could be a future site for a Bowl game like The Western Sizzling Bowl, or a future home for Outback Steakhouse Bowl. That part of Texas is cattle country, and known for their steaks.
Charleston in West Virginia is a good target in the future for the MAC. They used to be rivals to West Virginia and Marshall in the old days. Charleston is one of the larger cities in the state.
Midwestern State in Wichita Falls is in the Dallas/Fort Worth tv market, but they also have their own tv stations. They are pretty far removed from the whole Dallas Metroplex.
Valdosta State could represent the large populated area in southern Georgia.
Central Oklahoma is in the OKC metro area. They would be on the northern end of the market. Having them up at the FBS level might help get both them and Tulsa get more competitive in all sports. They both are off the I45 corridor. The state of Oklahoma could form a new bowl game for G5 called The Sooner Bowl.
I think those schools would have a much better abilities to jump from D2 to FBS. You have the cities involvement, donors, students enrollment and in some cases, endowments to make the leap.
These posts are so absurd it is beyond belief. It was like a wreck on the side of the road you can't stop looking at so I just had to reply to the silliness and falsehoods.
For a D2 to go FBS means adding 49 scholarships just for football, that is
IF the school already offers the D2 max. No school in the Pennsylvania State, Northern Sun, Great Northwest, or Rocky Mountain offer the max. The NSIC just removed their conference max a year ago. The RMAC has been adding 2 each year to their conference max and will allow the D2 max starting in 2019.
North Alabama never had a chance for the Sun Belt. The SBC already has 2 Alabama schools. Jacksonville State would get the call long before UNA.
Whatever happened in 1996 or even 2006 means nothing to what can happen now. There has been too many rule changes.
If you are using temp seating, you have no business being D1.
Azusa Pacific and the LA TV market, seriously? LA has 2 NFL, 2 NHL, 2 MLB, 2 MLS, 2 NBA, 2 G-League, USC, UCLA, and another half dozen long-time well established colleges. APU does not own the stadium they play in, it belongs to the community college next door, so no stadium upgrades there. The Rose Bowl Stadium is not available because UCLA is already there.
The Outback Bowl leaves Tampa for the middle-of-nowhere west Texas because of the cow population, yeah right.
Charleston (WV) is a private school with 1,300 students. That is the opposite of the profile of MAC schools. "They used to be rivals to West Virginia and Marshall in the old days"; that was the old days, it's 2018 now and time to let it go.
Midwestern State and the DFW market is the same as Azusa Pacific for LA. Several pro teams and long-time well established colleges.
Valdosta State is in a town of 55,000 and a MSA of 140,000; that's not really a large populated area. Georgia Southern is only 3 hours away with over 27,000 students and serves the area well. Tallahassee is 1.5 hours away and Jacksonville is a 2 hour trip.
"Central Oklahoma is in the OKC metro area" ... and so is Norman. Stillwater is only an hour away. OKC also has the Thunder. How does UCO being in D1 help Tulsa to get more competitive?
It's not in the job description for cities to help schools move to D1. DFW, OKC, and LA already have plenty of major sports options available.