(08-15-2018 03:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  If P6 doesn't work, plan B is for Houston, Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF & USF to leave.

And still no G5 playoff.

(08-15-2018 03:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  If P6 doesn't work, plan B is for Houston, Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF & USF to leave.

Go where ?

(08-15-2018 03:25 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 03:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  If P6 doesn't work, plan B is for Houston, Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF & USF to leave.

Go where ?

Joking aside, aligning with the G5 over the A5 would be insanely shortsighted. Despite people pointing out all of the reasons, you seem dug in on your side, and you're clearly in the minority thinking. So I'm done trying to sway you, because I don't think you're capable of being moved off of your position.

USFFan

AAC schools have raised spending on facilities, salaries, stipends, and other items. They have done this to promote their schools. The AAC is generally regarded as being above the G4 and more money from media is expected. So, their efforts have succeeded to a degree.

Do you want to undermine the chosen direction because the ultimate goal has not been reached after 4 years?

Many people have worked on business projects that took longer.

(08-15-2018 03:33 PM)usffan Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 03:25 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 03:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  If P6 doesn't work, plan B is for Houston, Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF & USF to leave.

Go where ?

Joking aside, aligning with the G5 over the A5 would be insanely shortsighted. Despite people pointing out all of the reasons, you seem dug in on your side, and you're clearly in the minority thinking. So I'm done trying to sway you, because I don't think you're capable of being moved off of your position.

USFFan

I just think the A5 is never going budge, yes I know Iam in the minority, mybe your team will get an A5 invite

(08-15-2018 03:35 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  AAC schools have raised spending on facilities, salaries, stipends, and other items. They have done this to promote their schools. The AAC is generally regarded as being above the G4 and more money from media is expected. So, their efforts have succeeded to a degree.

Do you want to undermine the chosen direction because the ultimate goal has not been reached after 4 years?

Many people have worked on business projects that took longer.

No, I don’t want to undermine anything, I was was just wondering is if A6 doesn’t work out, what then? , it’s a legitimate question at this point, why can’t y’all even consider the question

(08-15-2018 03:25 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 03:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  If P6 doesn't work, plan B is for Houston, Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF & USF to leave.

Go where ?

I assumed he meant a P5 conference. AAC will likely get a nice raise in TV money but if you think they'll ever cut you a piece of the CFP Power pie or autonomy gang you're crazy. They'll give you a nice haircut by taking some of your better programs and say "there, now you're a proper G5 conference".

And still, no to a G5 playoff.

It is not up to the A5. The only question that needs to be answered is "will some media company(s) pay for the viewers the AAC has demonstrated? If the AAC gets 1/3 the viewers of the Big 12, will the AAC get at least 1/6 the money? If so, the AAC continues to grow with more money for facilitie, salaries , and stipends. Higher stipends would improve our recruiting versus those paying less.

The question will be answered next year. Hope you can wait that long.

(08-15-2018 12:45 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  G4 needs a G4 poll.

+2

What is far more likely is that there will be another thinning of the herd, with the creation of a ~32 team, 4 division "Premier League" that only plays themselves, has an 8 team playoff (division winners and wild cards) that pays so much that it would justify those 32 schools walking away from the NCAA and their conferences for football. When that happens, it will leave another 30+ teams who will suddenly be having similar conversations to this.

USFFan

(08-15-2018 03:50 PM)HoustonRocks Wrote:  It is not up to the A5. The only question that needs to be answered is "will some media company(s) pay for the viewers the AAC has demonstrated? If the AAC gets 1/3 the viewers of the Big 12, will the AAC get at least 1/6 the money? If so, the AAC continues to grow with more money for facilitie, salaries , and stipends. Higher stipends would improve our recruiting versus those paying less.

The question will be answered next year. Hope you can wait that long.

Yes of course I can wait

(08-15-2018 03:58 PM)usffan Wrote:  What is far more likely is that there will be another thinning of the herd, with the creation of a ~32 team, 4 division "Premier League" that only plays themselves, has an 8 team playoff (division winners and wild cards) that pays so much that it would justify those 32 schools walking away from the NCAA and their conferences for football. When that happens, it will leave another 30+ teams who will suddenly be having similar conversations to this.

USFFan

Yeah and there are many fans of those 32 teams that want just that to happen and when it does happen all the schools l ft out of their club are instantly FCS

(08-15-2018 01:03 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 12:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 12:53 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 12:45 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  G4 needs a G4 poll.

Yes but if the A6 campaign doesn’t work out we need a plan B, plan B is a g5 playoff, ok haters of plan B, what do ya do if the A6 fails ?

There is no plan B. We attack and don't stop. There is essentially no difference in the g4 and fcs minus a few MWC teams

Gotta have an “ exit strategy “ plan B

Not if the money is not there.

(08-15-2018 05:08 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 01:03 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 12:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 12:53 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 12:45 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  G4 needs a G4 poll.

Yes but if the A6 campaign doesn’t work out we need a plan B, plan B is a g5 playoff, ok haters of plan B, what do ya do if the A6 fails ?

There is no plan B. We attack and don't stop. There is essentially no difference in the g4 and fcs minus a few MWC teams

Gotta have an “ exit strategy “ plan B

Not if the money is not there.

Not much money now

(08-15-2018 05:18 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 05:08 PM)sierrajip Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 01:03 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 12:58 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 12:53 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  Yes but if the A6 campaign doesn’t work out we need a plan B, plan B is a g5 playoff, ok haters of plan B, what do ya do if the A6 fails ?

There is no plan B. We attack and don't stop. There is essentially no difference in the g4 and fcs minus a few MWC teams

Gotta have an “ exit strategy “ plan B

Not if the money is not there.

Not much money now

The next contract better be much improved. A lot of the AAC teams are counting on it, but that is for another thread.

(08-15-2018 01:02 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  

(08-15-2018 12:54 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  Good grief man...might as well go fcs if we are going to associate with the g4.

Ok what if a network paid bigger bucks for a G5 playoff than what we’re getting from ESPN and cfp, say a lot more, it would show case more teams and might just help with recruiting and if recruiting gets a lot better then this FCS argument in of no concern
Plan B

It’s a nice sentiment—but it ain’t happening. Despite the fact some of these bowls featuring a high ranking G5 vs another high ranking G5 are getting high ratings—we don’t see any network stepping up with big money to create a series of G5 champ vs G5 champ bowls. That tells me the fantasy of a G5 playoff being worth more than our 85 million cut of the CFP P5 Invitational is pure folly. Think about it---for just 10 million any network could put together a deal where the 4 G5 champs not in the access bowl would play each other. The payoff would be 2.5 million for each team---more than twice what any G5 bowl pays right now. Yet, at a low price of just 10 million---exactly ZERO networks have come forward to put that championship bowl series together---and somehow a G5 playoff is going to be worth more than 85 million? Not in this lifetime its not.

ive said it before---if the G5 wants to improve the quality of its post season--it needs to work within the bowl system to create a series of championship bowls with high payouts to serve as the destination for the 4 G5 champs not in the access bowl. The bowls would owned by the G5 and will be financed with some of the money the G5 gets from the CFP every year. There would be 3 games, 2 vs P5 opponents and one pitting the #3 and #4 ranked G5 champs against each other. If the G5 supports their bowls---they will be self sustaining, profitable, and will serve as big showcase platforms that will make the outcome of G5 conference races more relavant to the general public.

The AAC 's viewer numbers have not been great but they have been good. Who ever those people are we do not have any reason to think they are going away. They may improve if the teams continue with the high quality of play.This is a business opportunity for some company(s). If company(s) contract with the AAC they will profit based on those numbers. Especially if they promote the conference.There are companies showing interest in sports that have not been involved. Opportunity + interest might prove profitable for all involved.

(08-15-2018 12:45 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  G4 needs a G4 poll.

Some G4 need to give up football or at least go club level

(08-15-2018 03:58 PM)usffan Wrote:  What is far more likely is that there will be another thinning of the herd, with the creation of a ~32 team, 4 division "Premier League" that only plays themselves, has an 8 team playoff (division winners and wild cards) that pays so much that it would justify those 32 schools walking away from the NCAA and their conferences for football. When that happens, it will leave another 30+ teams who will suddenly be having similar conversations to this.

USFFan

How is that any different than the formation of another semi pro league in competition with the NFL.
The major appeal of college football is the shared interest of a critical mass of fans interested in the respective teams and conferences. In other words, without the shared umbrella the 32 teams wouldn't warrant as much interest with the remaining 100 or so college teams. At best, an 80 team P6 MAY break away, imho.
The upcoming AAC contract will determine if the split in 2025/26 is P5 or P6. The G4 can play with themselves.

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