(10-14-2018 01:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 11:19 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 10:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 07:55 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 05:50 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  We don't know that because, like USF and unlike Notre Dame, UCF hasn't beaten any good teams.

UCF just beat a very talented and dangerous Memphis team that's in a transition year. UCF proved that they still have the ability to go as far as necessary to beat a good team on the road in bad conditions. As Milton said good teams find a way to win those types of games.

You mean the dangerous and talented Memphis team is now 4-3, with three wins coming against South Alabama, UConn, and Mercer, and that lost to a Navy team that is 2-4, and got dominated by a Tulane team that is 1-4 against FBS? And yet Memphis probably wins if their lineman doesn't commit a false start that came with a 10 second runoff at the end?

Massey Composite has Memphis at #76. That sounds right, and sadly, that's about the *best* team UCF has played this year. Yes, great UCF "found a way" to beat Mighty Memphis.

I wish I knew who you really rooted for because it dame sure isn't USF or their conference so that I could figure out where your psychosis originates from.

Are you nuts? No true USF fan wants UCF to win anything or wants UCF to be regarded as having won anything.

You have a totally distorted view of what USF fans think like, because you visit the AAC board which is populated with some weird USF "fans" who actually support UCF's ridonculous national title claim in the name of "AAC solidarity". But no actual USF fan wants UCF to do anything but lose every single game they play, or wants UCF to ever be ranked, much less go to NY6 bowls or the playoffs.

Nor do I want anything good to happen for Memphis - except for you to beat UCF when you play them. Memphis is a USF rival should a P5 spot open up, so I don't want you guys to have any glory either.

Beyond that, though, everything I said about Memphis is correct, no matter what team I support. You guys are the #76 team in the country. It is is what it is.

Good Lord.

I don't have a problem with any USF fans at all, not one. However you ain't no fan of USF, so my statement stands.

I just do not think AAC should be called a P6 conference. Until you do something with Tulsa and Tulane by booting them out of conference, and grab teams that are better who could beat the top teams in the regular season? You would still be called G5 for playing cupcakes like South Carolina State. At least MWC schools play the Dakota schools once in a while, and sometimes losing to them. There are more talent at the Dakota schools than the MEAC schools.

(10-14-2018 02:00 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 01:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 11:19 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 10:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 07:55 AM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  UCF just beat a very talented and dangerous Memphis team that's in a transition year. UCF proved that they still have the ability to go as far as necessary to beat a good team on the road in bad conditions. As Milton said good teams find a way to win those types of games.

You mean the dangerous and talented Memphis team is now 4-3, with three wins coming against South Alabama, UConn, and Mercer, and that lost to a Navy team that is 2-4, and got dominated by a Tulane team that is 1-4 against FBS? And yet Memphis probably wins if their lineman doesn't commit a false start that came with a 10 second runoff at the end?

Massey Composite has Memphis at #76. That sounds right, and sadly, that's about the *best* team UCF has played this year. Yes, great UCF "found a way" to beat Mighty Memphis.

I wish I knew who you really rooted for because it dame sure isn't USF or their conference so that I could figure out where your psychosis originates from.

Are you nuts? No true USF fan wants UCF to win anything or wants UCF to be regarded as having won anything.

You have a totally distorted view of what USF fans think like, because you visit the AAC board which is populated with some weird USF "fans" who actually support UCF's ridonculous national title claim in the name of "AAC solidarity". But no actual USF fan wants UCF to do anything but lose every single game they play, or wants UCF to ever be ranked, much less go to NY6 bowls or the playoffs.

Nor do I want anything good to happen for Memphis - except for you to beat UCF when you play them. Memphis is a USF rival should a P5 spot open up, so I don't want you guys to have any glory either.

Beyond that, though, everything I said about Memphis is correct, no matter what team I support. You guys are the #76 team in the country. It is is what it is.

Good Lord.

I don't have a problem with any USF fans at all, not one. However you ain't no fan of USF, so my statement stands.

I'm far more a USF fan than you are a Memphis fan.

(10-14-2018 07:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  1 San Diego State 5-1
2 UCF 6-0
3. Appalachian State 4-1
4. USF 6-0
5. Cincinnati 6-0
6. Utah State 5-1
7. Houston 5-1
8. Boise State 4-2
9. Buffalo 6-1
10. Fresno State 5-1

UAB, North Texas, Hawaii, Georgia Southern, Troy

This would be my top 10 Access Bowl Race.

Out of the ones on this thread, this one makes the most sense. Good job, David.


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(10-14-2018 03:41 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 07:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  1 San Diego State 5-1
2 UCF 6-0
3. Appalachian State 4-1
4. USF 6-0
5. Cincinnati 6-0
6. Utah State 5-1
7. Houston 5-1
8. Boise State 4-2
9. Buffalo 6-1
10. Fresno State 5-1

UAB, North Texas, Hawaii, Georgia Southern, Troy

This would be my top 10 Access Bowl Race.

Out of the ones on this thread, this one makes the most sense. Good job, David.

No, as much as I hate to admit it, UCF should be #1 in the Access Bowl race right now. SDSU and App State next, then USF/Cincy.

(10-14-2018 03:41 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 07:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  1 San Diego State 5-1
2 UCF 6-0
3. Appalachian State 4-1
4. USF 6-0
5. Cincinnati 6-0
6. Utah State 5-1
7. Houston 5-1
8. Boise State 4-2
9. Buffalo 6-1
10. Fresno State 5-1

UAB, North Texas, Hawaii, Georgia Southern, Troy

This would be my top 10 Access Bowl Race.

Out of the ones on this thread, this one makes the most sense. Good job, David.


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except that it is far from realistic. It's all UCF/USF/Cincy- and then everyone else. 4 teams and 4 teams only control their own destiny for the G5 spot. Those 3 and Houston. If any of those 4 win out, they will be the G5 rep. Period, end of story. Not a damn thing anyone else can do about it at all...

(10-14-2018 03:59 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 03:41 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 07:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  1 San Diego State 5-1
2 UCF 6-0
3. Appalachian State 4-1
4. USF 6-0
5. Cincinnati 6-0
6. Utah State 5-1
7. Houston 5-1
8. Boise State 4-2
9. Buffalo 6-1
10. Fresno State 5-1

UAB, North Texas, Hawaii, Georgia Southern, Troy

This would be my top 10 Access Bowl Race.

Out of the ones on this thread, this one makes the most sense. Good job, David.


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except that it is far from realistic. It's all UCF/USF/Cincy- and then everyone else. 4 teams and 4 teams only control their own destiny for the G5 spot. Those 3 and Houston. If any of those 4 win out, they will be the G5 rep. Period, end of story. Not a damn thing anyone else can do about it at all...

^^^^THIS^^^^

Mainly because those four must win against one or more ranked teams over the next 7 weeks in order to capture their conference championships. In other words, whoever pops out of the AAC CCG as the AAC champ---will have beaten one or more ranked teams over the next 7 weeks to end up in that position. No remaining candidate in any other G5 conference has that "big game vs a ranked team" advantage right now because the AAC is the only G5 conference with any ranked teams.

(10-14-2018 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I just do not think AAC should be called a P6 conference. Until you do something with Tulsa and Tulane by booting them out of conference, and grab teams that are better who could beat the top teams in the regular season? You would still be called G5 for playing cupcakes like South Carolina State. At least MWC schools play the Dakota schools once in a while, and sometimes losing to them. There are more talent at the Dakota schools than the MEAC schools.

Why bother paying a school that's in a lower subdivision and halfway across the country just to get beat? Playing any FCS school isn't a good look, regardless of how good they are.

(10-14-2018 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I just do not think AAC should be called a P6 conference. Until you do something with Tulsa and Tulane by booting them out of conference, and grab teams that are better who could beat the top teams in the regular season? You would still be called G5 for playing cupcakes like South Carolina State. At least MWC schools play the Dakota schools once in a while, and sometimes losing to them. There are more talent at the Dakota schools than the MEAC schools.

Because it’s better for fan interest to play FCS schools in your region. NIU played the Presbyterian Blue Hoes on a Thursday once - it was a ghosttown after half.

(10-14-2018 05:34 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I just do not think AAC should be called a P6 conference. Until you do something with Tulsa and Tulane by booting them out of conference, and grab teams that are better who could beat the top teams in the regular season? You would still be called G5 for playing cupcakes like South Carolina State. At least MWC schools play the Dakota schools once in a while, and sometimes losing to them. There are more talent at the Dakota schools than the MEAC schools.

Because it’s better for fan interest to play FCS schools in your region. NIU played the Presbyterian Blue Hoes on a Thursday once - it was a ghosttown after half.

Oh bull$hite. No one is going to show up to watch us play Morehead State, Eastern KY, or William and Mary. They will show up to watch us play NC State, Purdue, Louisville or Cincinnati.

(10-14-2018 05:43 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 05:34 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I just do not think AAC should be called a P6 conference. Until you do something with Tulsa and Tulane by booting them out of conference, and grab teams that are better who could beat the top teams in the regular season? You would still be called G5 for playing cupcakes like South Carolina State. At least MWC schools play the Dakota schools once in a while, and sometimes losing to them. There are more talent at the Dakota schools than the MEAC schools.

Because it’s better for fan interest to play FCS schools in your region. NIU played the Presbyterian Blue Hoes on a Thursday once - it was a ghosttown after half.

Oh bull$hite. No one is going to show up to watch us play Morehead State, Eastern KY, or William and Mary. They will show up to watch us play NC State, Purdue, Louisville or Cincinnati.

Even when App played close by FCS opponents in Gardner Webb and Savannah State, attendance for both of those games were lower than average.

(10-14-2018 05:49 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 05:43 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 05:34 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I just do not think AAC should be called a P6 conference. Until you do something with Tulsa and Tulane by booting them out of conference, and grab teams that are better who could beat the top teams in the regular season? You would still be called G5 for playing cupcakes like South Carolina State. At least MWC schools play the Dakota schools once in a while, and sometimes losing to them. There are more talent at the Dakota schools than the MEAC schools.

Because it’s better for fan interest to play FCS schools in your region. NIU played the Presbyterian Blue Hoes on a Thursday once - it was a ghosttown after half.

Oh bull$hite. No one is going to show up to watch us play Morehead State, Eastern KY, or William and Mary. They will show up to watch us play NC State, Purdue, Louisville or Cincinnati.

Even when App played close by FCS opponents in Gardner Webb and Savannah State, attendance for both of those games were lower than average.

Yep

(10-14-2018 05:43 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 05:34 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I just do not think AAC should be called a P6 conference. Until you do something with Tulsa and Tulane by booting them out of conference, and grab teams that are better who could beat the top teams in the regular season? You would still be called G5 for playing cupcakes like South Carolina State. At least MWC schools play the Dakota schools once in a while, and sometimes losing to them. There are more talent at the Dakota schools than the MEAC schools.

Because it’s better for fan interest to play FCS schools in your region. NIU played the Presbyterian Blue Hoes on a Thursday once - it was a ghosttown after half.

Oh bull$hite. No one is going to show up to watch us play Morehead State, Eastern KY, or William and Mary. They will show up to watch us play NC State, Purdue, Louisville or Cincinnati.

Except in cases that the FCS teams are power houses. JMU is much more talented teams that should not be in FBS. Jacksonville State could be a power house team as well. They just need a few pieces to fall in place. UCA Vs Arkansas State still had crowds of fan support for UCA from Conway to help fill seats.

(10-14-2018 03:58 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 03:41 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 07:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  1 San Diego State 5-1
2 UCF 6-0
3. Appalachian State 4-1
4. USF 6-0
5. Cincinnati 6-0
6. Utah State 5-1
7. Houston 5-1
8. Boise State 4-2
9. Buffalo 6-1
10. Fresno State 5-1

UAB, North Texas, Hawaii, Georgia Southern, Troy

This would be my top 10 Access Bowl Race.

Out of the ones on this thread, this one makes the most sense. Good job, David.

No, as much as I hate to admit it, UCF should be #1 in the Access Bowl race right now. SDSU and App State next, then USF/Cincy.

Not this week. UCF almost lost to Memphis. Memphis lost to Navy. Navy lost to Air Force. San Diego State beat Air Force. AAC schools could suffer 1 to 2 losses. If that happens? San Diego State or Utah State could sneak in and take the access bowl from them.

(10-14-2018 07:32 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 03:58 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 03:41 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 07:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  1 San Diego State 5-1
2 UCF 6-0
3. Appalachian State 4-1
4. USF 6-0
5. Cincinnati 6-0
6. Utah State 5-1
7. Houston 5-1
8. Boise State 4-2
9. Buffalo 6-1
10. Fresno State 5-1

UAB, North Texas, Hawaii, Georgia Southern, Troy

This would be my top 10 Access Bowl Race.

Out of the ones on this thread, this one makes the most sense. Good job, David.

No, as much as I hate to admit it, UCF should be #1 in the Access Bowl race right now. SDSU and App State next, then USF/Cincy.

Not this week. UCF almost lost to Memphis. Memphis lost to Navy. Navy lost to Air Force. San Diego State beat Air Force. AAC schools could suffer 1 to 2 losses. If that happens? San Diego State or Utah State could sneak in and take the access bowl from them.

If the Access Bowl was decided right now, it is 99.9% certain UCF would get it.

(10-14-2018 05:49 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 05:43 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 05:34 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 02:58 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I just do not think AAC should be called a P6 conference. Until you do something with Tulsa and Tulane by booting them out of conference, and grab teams that are better who could beat the top teams in the regular season? You would still be called G5 for playing cupcakes like South Carolina State. At least MWC schools play the Dakota schools once in a while, and sometimes losing to them. There are more talent at the Dakota schools than the MEAC schools.

Because it’s better for fan interest to play FCS schools in your region. NIU played the Presbyterian Blue Hoes on a Thursday once - it was a ghosttown after half.

Oh bull$hite. No one is going to show up to watch us play Morehead State, Eastern KY, or William and Mary. They will show up to watch us play NC State, Purdue, Louisville or Cincinnati.

Even when App played close by FCS opponents in Gardner Webb and Savannah State, attendance for both of those games were lower than average.

For both Arizona and Arizona State, when NAU plays them it is one of thoe higher attended games. And some seasons it has been the best attended game.

There are plenty of reasons for playing a local FCS team aside from having a tune up/easy win game. UH for instance played TSU this year, in part because they let us use their basketball arena last year while ours underwent renovations. When scheduling an FCS opponent SOS shouldn't be a concern. Nobody cares how good your FCS opponent is. They care how good your FBS opponents are.

(10-13-2018 11:13 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(10-13-2018 11:01 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  UCF isn’t even a top 20 team, let alone a top 10 team

I’m no UCF fan, but they’ve won 19 in a row. You’re allowed a close one now and then. They pulled it out. Good teams find a way.

You have to remember you are posting to an Illini fan. He may not know about that.

(10-14-2018 07:32 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 03:58 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 03:41 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 07:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  1 San Diego State 5-1
2 UCF 6-0
3. Appalachian State 4-1
4. USF 6-0
5. Cincinnati 6-0
6. Utah State 5-1
7. Houston 5-1
8. Boise State 4-2
9. Buffalo 6-1
10. Fresno State 5-1

UAB, North Texas, Hawaii, Georgia Southern, Troy

This would be my top 10 Access Bowl Race.

Out of the ones on this thread, this one makes the most sense. Good job, David.

No, as much as I hate to admit it, UCF should be #1 in the Access Bowl race right now. SDSU and App State next, then USF/Cincy.

Not this week. UCF almost lost to Memphis. Memphis lost to Navy. Navy lost to Air Force. San Diego State beat Air Force. AAC schools could suffer 1 to 2 losses. If that happens? San Diego State or Utah State could sneak in and take the access bowl from them.

And Notre Dame almost lost to Pitt who UCF beat by 31. Almost’s count in horseshoes.

(10-14-2018 03:41 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote:  

(10-14-2018 07:28 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  1 San Diego State 5-1
2 UCF 6-0
3. Appalachian State 4-1
4. USF 6-0
5. Cincinnati 6-0
6. Utah State 5-1
7. Houston 5-1
8. Boise State 4-2
9. Buffalo 6-1
10. Fresno State 5-1

UAB, North Texas, Hawaii, Georgia Southern, Troy

This would be my top 10 Access Bowl Race.

Out of the ones on this thread, this one makes the most sense. Good job, David.


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Except if you go to the MWC board most of them have Fresno ranked above SDSU and Boise. SDSU has to go to Fresno this year and typically struggles there.