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RE: What is ideal # of teams for a conference?
Divisions of 8 are too big. You only get one rotating opponent. You are stuck with playing 7 schools EVERY year. If you have a rivalry with all 7 schools, that's fine, but who has that many rivalries? 5-6 teams is perfect for a division size. If you could swing a 4-team playoff for conferences bigger than 14, you could generate some excitement.
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(06-28-2019 10:17 AM)Ourland Wrote:  WKUYG, you don't have to explain yourself. I didn't attend Rice, but I know I'm more passionate about it's athletics programs than 95% of it's alumni. I grew up on Rice football and basketball. A fan is a fan, and trust me, WKU and Rice are more than happy to have us.

I think the problem folks have here with you is that you tend to be a little condescending and arrogant on this board. Your word isn't the "be all end all." In all these arguments and highjacked threads, you're usually the common denominator.

When I find myself getting upset around here, I just leave the board for a few days. It helps. Going overboard to prove a minor point is exhausting, and it gives the impression that you think you're always right. Just let it go. To hell with these guys. Take a deep breath, relax, and have fun. If you do that, I think you'll see a lot of these attacks stop. Just something to think about.

Who hijacked the thread? I'm replying to what someone else said and I hardly ever go off target. You wont find any on this topic where I directed it off topic. Its a huge difference in pointing out where someone is wrong than thinking you are alway right. Most people are voicing their opinions or statement to get replies. I state my reply with mostly facts and some people cant handle that...

You wont find many debates that I dont research before responding. If the other person dont want to fact check what they said. Maybe they should just pass right over my post. I'm not holding a gun to their head. As for arguments you need to direct that at someone else. I'm debating and usually its the other person that wants to argue.

As far as getting upset, that's not me...its usually the other guy. There's nothing anyone on a message board can say that's going to upset me. You can always tell because they change their attack to personal or name calling. I might get there at some point but hardly ever go there first.

It has nothing to do with being a know it all...we all can be that if we just spent 5 minutes checking before posting. You might call that condescending and arrogant...

I call it being informed on the topic. But I can admit, I like being that assshole at times To a couple people. But its not because I'm upset. It's because they make bragging post 7 out of every 10 times they post something. Most of those are not close to being correct.

But in the end, you do you, and I will do me, and everyone else do what they like. I'm not on the Internet looking for friends. Or for someone to tell me how to act. Because 90% of the time I'm helluva lot more civil to those in debates with me, than they are.

I've been in a business that depended on research and facts and telling it like I see it/honest since I was 17 years old...that carries over to other things in life. Some people cant handle that and to be honestly I dont worry about those people.
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RE: What is ideal # of teams for a conference?
You take constructive criticism really well.
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Facts? In this day and age? All that matters is screaming loudest, don't you know?! LOL!
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What is ideal # of teams for a conference?
(06-28-2019 11:18 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Divisions of 8 are too big. You only get one rotating opponent. You are stuck with playing 7 schools EVERY year. If you have a rivalry with all 7 schools, that's fine, but who has that many rivalries? 5-6 teams is perfect for a division size. If you could swing a 4-team playoff for conferences bigger than 14, you could generate some excitement.


Agree. 3 divisions of 5 or 6 each is a good way to go. 3 division champs plus one wild card slot into the conference playoff.
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(06-28-2019 10:44 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(06-28-2019 09:58 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-27-2019 12:13 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  16 with two divisions of 8 each.

If we hold together, I could get behind this wholeheartedly. It eliminates one crossover in football.

It provides an option for each side to hold it's own basketball tournament. The East could finally separate itself from the West in basketball.

Each side could play separately from one another in Olympic sports. There's flexibility with 16 that you don't have with 14.

And split tv money even more? No thanks.

And bb could not split. We have one autobid. So what if the overall 1,2, and 3 seeds are in one division? You dont get the top two teams most likely...

How much TV money do we get?
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(06-29-2019 02:49 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(06-28-2019 10:44 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(06-28-2019 09:58 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-27-2019 12:13 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  16 with two divisions of 8 each.

If we hold together, I could get behind this wholeheartedly. It eliminates one crossover in football.

It provides an option for each side to hold it's own basketball tournament. The East could finally separate itself from the West in basketball.

Each side could play separately from one another in Olympic sports. There's flexibility with 16 that you don't have with 14.

And split tv money even more? No thanks.

And bb could not split. We have one autobid. So what if the overall 1,2, and 3 seeds are in one division? You dont get the top two teams most likely...

How much TV money do we get?

Not enough to absorb two more schools. Unless of course, we poach BYU and Boise. 04-bolt
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(06-29-2019 04:11 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(06-29-2019 02:49 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  
(06-28-2019 10:44 AM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  
(06-28-2019 09:58 AM)Ourland Wrote:  
(06-27-2019 12:13 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  16 with two divisions of 8 each.

If we hold together, I could get behind this wholeheartedly. It eliminates one crossover in football.

It provides an option for each side to hold it's own basketball tournament. The East could finally separate itself from the West in basketball.

Each side could play separately from one another in Olympic sports. There's flexibility with 16 that you don't have with 14.

And split tv money even more? No thanks.

And bb could not split. We have one autobid. So what if the overall 1,2, and 3 seeds are in one division? You dont get the top two teams most likely...

How much TV money do we get?

Not enough to absorb two more schools. Unless of course, we poach BYU and Boise. 04-bolt

I guess we get to the meat of my question: Is TV money enough of a factor?
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(07-01-2019 03:45 PM)zyxwvutsru Wrote:  42

Well, lets assume it isn’t and ODU is gone. I think we make a play for App, GaSo, and Troy. I don't think App come without them.
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3















Just 3
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(07-01-2019 03:45 PM)zyxwvutsru Wrote:  42

Are you answering the ideal # of teams question or is this what you expect the TV money to be? Follow up: if the latter would that be per team and are we talking dollars or cents?
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(07-02-2019 11:56 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  
(07-01-2019 03:45 PM)zyxwvutsru Wrote:  42

Are you answering the ideal # of teams question or is this what you expect the TV money to be? Follow up: if the latter would that be per team and are we talking dollars or cents?

the answer, but i don't know the question.
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10 or LESS for both. No divisions, 9 conference games for football and 18 for basketball. Keep the CCG with just best 2, rematches are fun.
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(06-26-2019 08:17 PM)THUNDERStruck73 Wrote:  9

This is correct answer.
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clt asks if linear tv is involved
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Who wants to play the same 8 teams every year? NOBODY! You need to rotate 3-4 of those teams off and on.
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(07-04-2019 12:39 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Who wants to play the same 8 teams every year? NOBODY! You need to rotate 3-4 of those teams off and on.


That's what OOC games are for. those 8 teams you play should either be rivalry games or a game you'd be embarrassed to lose.
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No. The SEC plays 8 conference games with 2 rotating and 1 perm opponent. You need that flexibility and fans want different competition. Schools don't have 8 rivals on their football schedules, maybe 4 rivals at most. If you think the SEC teams are all 'rivals' to one another, you're wrong.
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(07-04-2019 01:09 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  
(07-04-2019 12:39 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Who wants to play the same 8 teams every year? NOBODY! You need to rotate 3-4 of those teams off and on.


That's what OOC games are for. those 8 teams you play should either be rivalry games or a game you'd be embarrassed to lose.

Or a game you would be paid really well to take thumping in.
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