The Sunbelt had a helluva week last Saturday. One for the ages. They have also had some fantastic wins the last decade of football, but to state outright that the Sunbelt has far surpassed CUSA is not realistic. Both conferences have a short list of strong programs that have fed off of weak ones and an occasional victory over a P5 team. For what advantages in TV Sunbelt may have CUSA has countered with Bowl games. Both Conferences have their strong and weak points but they lack the fundamental strengths that the MWC and AAC have. This means nobody know the difference between the two from an average fan perspective. For all we know most fans may assume that this is a conference game between Marshall & Appy State. The game is a clear opportunity to take advantage of a time slot nothing short of a pandemic would allow. I hope the Nielsen ratings are off the charts and Marshall can win an exciting game.

Let’s be honest here. Neither conference is good, but each conference has a few good teams in any given year. App has been the most consistently good team since realignment. Marshall has won games at a consistent clip, 2016 not withstanding, but we haven’t fielded a team that could stay within 2 TDs of the 2014 squad since Cato walked out the door. So we have been okay.

This will be a good measuring stick game for Marshall to see if we are working our way back to 2014 level or if we are still just a team that wins 8-9 games a year because we have 8-10 relatively easy games a year.

(09-16-2020 08:12 AM)rileylives Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 07:58 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-15-2020 07:03 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I have to be completely honest. I'm a little shocked so many on here do not see the big picture ramifications on the line.

So far 66% of the vote is going towards "no"

Well, you said decades. You also brought up the 2011 CUSA title game which was also on network TV and had a BCS bowl game on the line. So right there that game trumps it. I doubt App would be ranked if the BIG10 and PAC12 were included and know that this game would not be on network. It's great exposure and I'm looking forward to watching it but there aren't really much ramifications beyond that.

Here's where the "no" consensus is wrong on this.

Let's say Marshall wins. Now we've got a top 25 team for CUSA. Then let's say La Tech makes a run, they make it into this top 25. We've got an undefeated Marshall and an undefeated La Tech squaring off, two top 25 CUSA teams.

That's the rub we get just from this game. That's why this is so important.

More eyes on our product that we've probably ever had in decades. And that's why I say decades.

The BIG10 just announced they will start playing in October, regardless who wins neither team will be ranked next week if they start to be included in polls.

(09-16-2020 09:10 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  The Sunbelt had a helluva week last Saturday. One for the ages. They have also had some fantastic wins the last decade of football, but to state outright that the Sunbelt has far surpassed CUSA is not realistic. Both conferences have a short list of strong programs that have fed off of weak ones and an occasional victory over a P5 team. For what advantages in TV Sunbelt may have CUSA has countered with Bowl games. Both Conferences have their strong and weak points but they lack the fundamental strengths that the MWC and AAC have. This means nobody know the difference between the two from an average fan perspective. For all we know most fans may assume that this is a conference game between Marshall & Appy State. The game is a clear opportunity to take advantage of a time slot nothing short of a pandemic would allow. I hope the Nielsen ratings are off the charts and Marshall can win an exciting game.

I hope you didn't think I was insinuating that we have "far surpassed CUSA". That isn't what I said, nor is it what I meant.

I agree with almost everything you've stated in this post. I am curious as to the fundamental strengths both CUSA and SBC lack that the MWC has. Outside of the MWC having Boise, (who is perennially mentioned because they used to be a contender and upset OU in the Sugar Bowl, once) what do they have over both of our conferences really?

(09-16-2020 09:08 AM)FAU Connoisseur! Wrote:  

(09-15-2020 07:03 PM)rileylives Wrote:  I have to be completely honest. I'm a little shocked so many on here do not see the big picture ramifications on the line.

So far 66% of the vote is going towards "no"

Or the counter point could be we are shocked at the self inflated importance one has of their program....with all due respect.

I don't think you read all of the posts, but that's a weird take.

I made it pretty clear how I feel.

(09-16-2020 09:21 AM)NeersBy90 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 09:10 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  The Sunbelt had a helluva week last Saturday. One for the ages. They have also had some fantastic wins the last decade of football, but to state outright that the Sunbelt has far surpassed CUSA is not realistic. Both conferences have a short list of strong programs that have fed off of weak ones and an occasional victory over a P5 team. For what advantages in TV Sunbelt may have CUSA has countered with Bowl games. Both Conferences have their strong and weak points but they lack the fundamental strengths that the MWC and AAC have. This means nobody know the difference between the two from an average fan perspective. For all we know most fans may assume that this is a conference game between Marshall & Appy State. The game is a clear opportunity to take advantage of a time slot nothing short of a pandemic would allow. I hope the Nielsen ratings are off the charts and Marshall can win an exciting game.

I hope you didn't think I was insinuating that we have "far surpassed CUSA". That isn't what I said, nor is it what I meant.

I agree with almost everything you've stated in this post. I am curious as to the fundamental strengths both CUSA and SBC lack that the MWC has. Outside of the MWC having Boise, (who is perennially mentioned because they used to be a contender and upset OU in the Sugar Bowl, once) what do they have over both of our conferences really?

The MWC has what I would call a regional identity. The majority of the schools are either the top schools in their state or considered peers with their P5 equivalent. Colorado State is in many ways considered equal to CU. New Mexico, Hawaii, Wyoming, Boise, Nevada & UNLV are the top of their state. The California Schools for the most part are peer institutions academically.

The schools in the Sunbelt & CUSA are considered by many in their own states to either be second or third tier schools with a sizable gap between them and the P5 counterparts. Tech and ULL both consider themselves to be the second best school in the state but the gap between the pair and LSU is unfathomable. We have multitudes of football conferences overlapping from Texas to Virginia which has codified the assumption there were levels of football in the South. The AAC has marketed themselves as being the second best conference in the region and left the rest to fend for themselves.

Its a huge game for a number of reasons. 1. Its on a major network and will be seen by many people. 2. Its against a ranked opponent and will hopefully catapult Marshall into the top 25 if they win. 3. Its against the Sun Belt, and CUSA has been losing ground to the SB for a few years. We need to kick the arse of their best team on national television to turn the tide. Go Herd!

On a side note: Id still love to see App put P7 stickers on their helmets for this game, just to take a swipe at the AAC.

(09-16-2020 09:21 AM)NeersBy90 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 09:10 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  The Sunbelt had a helluva week last Saturday. One for the ages. They have also had some fantastic wins the last decade of football, but to state outright that the Sunbelt has far surpassed CUSA is not realistic. Both conferences have a short list of strong programs that have fed off of weak ones and an occasional victory over a P5 team. For what advantages in TV Sunbelt may have CUSA has countered with Bowl games. Both Conferences have their strong and weak points but they lack the fundamental strengths that the MWC and AAC have. This means nobody know the difference between the two from an average fan perspective. For all we know most fans may assume that this is a conference game between Marshall & Appy State. The game is a clear opportunity to take advantage of a time slot nothing short of a pandemic would allow. I hope the Nielsen ratings are off the charts and Marshall can win an exciting game.

I hope you didn't think I was insinuating that we have "far surpassed CUSA". That isn't what I said, nor is it what I meant.

I agree with almost everything you've stated in this post. I am curious as to the fundamental strengths both CUSA and SBC lack that the MWC has. Outside of the MWC having Boise, (who is perennially mentioned because they used to be a contender and upset OU in the Sugar Bowl, once) what do they have over both of our conferences really?

The MWC has a more national brand and cracked the BCS multiple times, not quite to the level of the AAC but not really that far off, but was doing it before the AAC. When you have Fresno, Boise, Colorado State, SDST, UNLV, Nevada, you are talking about schools that have been together for a long time, earned a national perception and without looking it up, the second largest average budgets among the G5 conferences. I am not defending the MWC, just stating what is known. Out of those schools, Boise is the one that had to fight from FCS to BCS buster within 10 year span. The conference had a small shake up, lost BYU, Utah, and TCU, so they have had the smallest turnover other than the MAC in the last 15 years. When they lost those schools, they got Boise, Nevada, Utah State, San Jose State from the WAC. Boise alone and at one time, Fresno, helped mitigate at least 1-2 of the 3 losses with Utah State coming along nicely. Have to put things in perspective to understand it.

Poll question is "how important" but the yes/no option pretty much only lets one give an "it's important" or "it isn't important" response.

I modified it to allow more options to reflect the poll question better

(09-16-2020 10:15 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Poll question is "how important" but the yes/no option pretty much only lets one give an "it's important" or "it isn't important" response.

I modified it to allow more options to reflect the poll question better

No, he asked if it was the most important game in decades. In my opinion that's ludicrous. No game this season will be that important as they'll all come with asterisks.

(09-16-2020 10:06 AM)beefcake0520 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 09:21 AM)NeersBy90 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 09:10 AM)pilot172000 Wrote:  The Sunbelt had a helluva week last Saturday. One for the ages. They have also had some fantastic wins the last decade of football, but to state outright that the Sunbelt has far surpassed CUSA is not realistic. Both conferences have a short list of strong programs that have fed off of weak ones and an occasional victory over a P5 team. For what advantages in TV Sunbelt may have CUSA has countered with Bowl games. Both Conferences have their strong and weak points but they lack the fundamental strengths that the MWC and AAC have. This means nobody know the difference between the two from an average fan perspective. For all we know most fans may assume that this is a conference game between Marshall & Appy State. The game is a clear opportunity to take advantage of a time slot nothing short of a pandemic would allow. I hope the Nielsen ratings are off the charts and Marshall can win an exciting game.

I hope you didn't think I was insinuating that we have "far surpassed CUSA". That isn't what I said, nor is it what I meant.

I agree with almost everything you've stated in this post. I am curious as to the fundamental strengths both CUSA and SBC lack that the MWC has. Outside of the MWC having Boise, (who is perennially mentioned because they used to be a contender and upset OU in the Sugar Bowl, once) what do they have over both of our conferences really?

The MWC has a more national brand and cracked the BCS multiple times, not quite to the level of the AAC but not really that far off, but was doing it before the AAC. When you have Fresno, Boise, Colorado State, SDST, UNLV, Nevada, you are talking about schools that have been together for a long time, earned a national perception and without looking it up, the second largest average budgets among the G5 conferences. I am not defending the MWC, just stating what is known. Out of those schools, Boise is the one that had to fight from FCS to BCS buster within 10 year span. The conference had a small shake up, lost BYU, Utah, and TCU, so they have had the smallest turnover other than the MAC in the last 15 years. When they lost those schools, they got Boise, Nevada, Utah State, San Jose State from the WAC. Boise alone and at one time, Fresno, helped mitigate at least 1-2 of the 3 losses with Utah State coming along nicely. Have to put things in perspective to understand it.

Tech was in the WAC for 12 years and had a good relationship with the bulk of what is the MWC. They are cohesive and put a good product out there. In those 12 years we were there we had 3 BCS appearances as a conference which is amazing not that I look at it.

(09-16-2020 10:15 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Poll question is "how important" but the yes/no option pretty much only lets one give an "it's important" or "it isn't important" response.

I modified it to allow more options to reflect the poll question better

LOL, the fans of the premier NC G5 brand in the Charlotte market care.

Please feel free to tune in to the national broadcast Saturday along with thousands of fellow Charlotteans to see that premier G5 brand in Charlotte market square off against an old foe.

Besides, seeing how things are going for the tertiary NC G5 brand in Charlotte, it might get quite ugly in Chapel Hill.

(09-16-2020 10:28 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:15 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Poll question is "how important" but the yes/no option pretty much only lets one give an "it's important" or "it isn't important" response.

I modified it to allow more options to reflect the poll question better

LOL, the fans of the premier NC G5 brand in the Charlotte market care.

Please feel free to tune in to the national broadcast Saturday along with thousands of fellow Charlotteans to see that premier G5 brand in Charlotte market square off against an old foe.

Besides, seeing how things are going for the tertiary NC G5 brand in Charlotte, it might get quite ugly in Chapel Hill.

Bless your heart! Better focus on Marshall now.

(09-16-2020 10:28 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:15 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Poll question is "how important" but the yes/no option pretty much only lets one give an "it's important" or "it isn't important" response.

I modified it to allow more options to reflect the poll question better

LOL, the fans of the premier NC G5 brand in the Charlotte market care.

Please feel free to tune in to the national broadcast Saturday along with thousands of fellow Charlotteans to see that premier G5 brand in Charlotte market square off against an old foe.

Besides, seeing how things are going for the tertiary NC G5 brand in Charlotte, it might get quite ugly in Chapel Hill.

Isn't premier G5 brand an oxymoron?

(09-16-2020 10:31 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:28 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:15 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Poll question is "how important" but the yes/no option pretty much only lets one give an "it's important" or "it isn't important" response.

I modified it to allow more options to reflect the poll question better

LOL, the fans of the premier NC G5 brand in the Charlotte market care.

Please feel free to tune in to the national broadcast Saturday along with thousands of fellow Charlotteans to see that premier G5 brand in Charlotte market square off against an old foe.

Besides, seeing how things are going for the tertiary NC G5 brand in Charlotte, it might get quite ugly in Chapel Hill.

Bless your heart! Better focus on Marshall now.

Whoops, I see that you don't live in Charlotte, let me amend:

be sure to tune in to the national broadcast Saturday along with thousands of residents of (insert your suburb here) to see the premier G5 brand in Charlotte market square off against an old foe.

I'll be tuning in with my fellow Charlotteans.

(09-16-2020 06:38 AM)ghostofclt! Wrote:  

(09-15-2020 09:12 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  UNCC’s “close loss” to App is confusing language. App had three turnovers (one on the one yard line), gave up a KO return for TD, and still won by 15.

The better question may be is this the biggest game ever between the two conferences? Could be, certainly will be the most viewed and one of the seldom matchups in which one team is ranked and the other would be with an upset victory.

App will need to clean up the mistakes from week one, especially turnovers and contain Marshall’s QB and RB to win. Marshall will need to protect the QB and force App to throw the ball 30 times or more.

These could be two of the top five olines in the G5.

clt says Charlotte played with an injured QB1. Marshal by 12

My question is WHY? Why did Charlotte's coach leave Reynolds in with an injury? I mean, if Reynolds isn't healthy enough to play this week, he most likely shouldn't have stayed in the game last week. The Charlotte coach left Reynolds in the game until the bitter end against Appy, even though it was very obvious something was wrong.

The parents of Charlotte's players should be pissed about this. This reminds me of Seth Littrell leaving an inured Mason Fine in the game against LA Tech a couple of years ago.

(09-16-2020 10:33 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:28 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:15 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Poll question is "how important" but the yes/no option pretty much only lets one give an "it's important" or "it isn't important" response.

I modified it to allow more options to reflect the poll question better

LOL, the fans of the premier NC G5 brand in the Charlotte market care.

Please feel free to tune in to the national broadcast Saturday along with thousands of fellow Charlotteans to see that premier G5 brand in Charlotte market square off against an old foe.

Besides, seeing how things are going for the tertiary NC G5 brand in Charlotte, it might get quite ugly in Chapel Hill.

Isn't premier G5 brand an oxymoron?

only in relation to P5 brands, not in relation to other, lowlier G5 brands.

(09-16-2020 10:37 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:31 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:28 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:15 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Poll question is "how important" but the yes/no option pretty much only lets one give an "it's important" or "it isn't important" response.

I modified it to allow more options to reflect the poll question better

LOL, the fans of the premier NC G5 brand in the Charlotte market care.

Please feel free to tune in to the national broadcast Saturday along with thousands of fellow Charlotteans to see that premier G5 brand in Charlotte market square off against an old foe.

Besides, seeing how things are going for the tertiary NC G5 brand in Charlotte, it might get quite ugly in Chapel Hill.

Bless your heart! Better focus on Marshall now.

Whoops, I see that you don't live in Charlotte, let me amend:

be sure to tune in to the national broadcast Saturday along with thousands of residents of (insert your suburb here) to see the premier G5 brand in Charlotte market square off against an old foe.

I'll be tuning in with my fellow Charlotteans.

Some folks don't know how to win with grace. Did you used to be an App Tight End too?

(09-16-2020 10:41 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:33 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:28 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:15 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Poll question is "how important" but the yes/no option pretty much only lets one give an "it's important" or "it isn't important" response.

I modified it to allow more options to reflect the poll question better

LOL, the fans of the premier NC G5 brand in the Charlotte market care.

Please feel free to tune in to the national broadcast Saturday along with thousands of fellow Charlotteans to see that premier G5 brand in Charlotte market square off against an old foe.

Besides, seeing how things are going for the tertiary NC G5 brand in Charlotte, it might get quite ugly in Chapel Hill.

Isn't premier G5 brand an oxymoron?

only in relation to P5 brands, not in relation to other, lowlier G5 brands.

Well congrats on that 3.75" dick I suppose.

(09-16-2020 10:44 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:41 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:33 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:28 AM)ballantyneapp Wrote:  

(09-16-2020 10:15 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Poll question is "how important" but the yes/no option pretty much only lets one give an "it's important" or "it isn't important" response.

I modified it to allow more options to reflect the poll question better

LOL, the fans of the premier NC G5 brand in the Charlotte market care.

Please feel free to tune in to the national broadcast Saturday along with thousands of fellow Charlotteans to see that premier G5 brand in Charlotte market square off against an old foe.

Besides, seeing how things are going for the tertiary NC G5 brand in Charlotte, it might get quite ugly in Chapel Hill.

Isn't premier G5 brand an oxymoron?

only in relation to P5 brands, not in relation to other, lowlier G5 brands.

Well congrats on that 3.75" dick I suppose.

LOL in the land of the micro-dicks, the 3 3/4" dicked man is King.