(06-05-2023 01:27 PM)e-parade Wrote:  I like Scheer's response to his own tweet:

The executive session is actually about realignment of the calendar instead of their conference.

Isn't it obvious? June 6th falls on a Wednesday in 2029...

(06-05-2023 01:45 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:27 PM)e-parade Wrote:  I like Scheer's response to his own tweet:

The executive session is actually about realignment of the calendar instead of their conference.

Isn't it obvious? June 6th falls on a Wednesday in 2029...

During the next cycle's media negotiations...it's all coming together.

(06-05-2023 01:44 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Colorado's alumns are in California. That is where their donors are at. They would pull support for money if they move to the Big 12.

Would they do that if it meant they are at a serious competitive disadvantage to the B12 because of a streaming only TV contract or significantly less money? Doubtful.

I know I want my school to have every competitive advantage it can have.

...I think the Texas recruiting fields may supersede the alumni in Cali (and with SoCal not in the PAC now, that aspect is greatly diminished, anyway). AND, CU has fared a LOT worse in the PAC than in the BigXII, perhaps in part due to that - with Coach Prime's Dallas connections, they should be able to snag some big TX recruits...

(06-05-2023 02:03 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:44 PM)mlb Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Colorado's alumns are in California. That is where their donors are at. They would pull support for money if they move to the Big 12.

Would they do that if it meant they are at a serious competitive disadvantage to the B12 because of a streaming only TV contract or significantly less money? Doubtful.

I know I want my school to have every competitive advantage it can have.

...I think the Texas recruiting fields may supersede the alumni in Cali (and with SoCal not in the PAC now, that aspect is greatly diminished, anyway). AND, CU has fared a LOT worse in the PAC than in the BigXII, perhaps in part due to that - with Coach Prime's Dallas connections, they should be able to snag some big TX recruits...

CU back in the Day had a Strong recruiting Pipeline to the Greater Houston area. Once they bailed for the PAC, that was gone.

(06-05-2023 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:37 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:33 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Colorado has to be convinced that PAC is going to fall apart to go back to the B12 when none of the teams it cares about are going to be there anymore

Not really. They only care if they can make more money per year in the Big 12. How much more? 5-10m a year might be enough to get them to move.

Colorado's alumns are in California. That is where their donors are at. They would pull support for money if they move to the Big 12.

But how many of those were in LA vs NorCal? We're now comparing NorCal alums to TX alums, and TX alums probably match NorCal alums.

(06-05-2023 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Colorado's alumns are in California. That is where their donors are at. They would pull support for money if they move to the Big 12.

Are most of Colorado's alums in PAC 12 California or Big Ten California?

(06-05-2023 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Colorado's alumns are in California.

No, they are everywhere. Highest number in CO, of course.

All major schools have many alums on the West Coast.

Donors will give more if they are winning, on TV often, etc.

(06-05-2023 01:45 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:27 PM)e-parade Wrote:  I like Scheer's response to his own tweet:

The executive session is actually about realignment of the calendar instead of their conference.

Isn't it obvious? June 6th falls on a Wednesday in 2029...

University administrators are much better with platitudes than details

(06-05-2023 02:16 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Colorado's alumns are in California. That is where their donors are at. They would pull support for money if they move to the Big 12.

Are most of Colorado's alums in PAC 12 California or Big Ten California?

That's the important question. In 2011, it was CA vs TX. In 2023, it's NorCal vs TX.

(06-05-2023 01:41 PM)e-parade Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:37 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 12:47 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 12:44 PM)PlayBall! Wrote:  Last time (Big XII --> PAC), what was the actual CU Board agenda just-prior to the public announcement of that move?

Keep dreaming. Colorado is staying in the PAC 12. They want an invite from the Big 10 instead.

No, we want CU to join the big 12 so that the Pac is forced to turn to their Saviors from Boise!

If Boise really wants to join the Pac they should vote to change their name to "Bolorado" so they can pitch to take Colorado's place by virtue of "being pretty close, but better alphabetically. The alphabet is extremely important."

"The" Bolorado State University!

...and although I have NO info regarding this, I would NOT be surprised to see Stanford and Cal in the B1G sooner than later, as the B1G just isn't going to have two members 'isloated', and will add more - UO,Udub,Stan, and Cal just seems like a done deal, and if the current CU + whoever else to the XII actually occurs, the B1G will be next on the action list, and I think it will be a pretty quick strike...

...remember, UO and Udub are already 'vetted and petted', or 'tagged and bagged', or whatever, by the B1G...

(06-05-2023 02:12 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:37 PM)PicksUp Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 01:33 PM)10thMountain Wrote:  Colorado has to be convinced that PAC is going to fall apart to go back to the B12 when none of the teams it cares about are going to be there anymore

Not really. They only care if they can make more money per year in the Big 12. How much more? 5-10m a year might be enough to get them to move.

Colorado's alumns are in California. That is where their donors are at. They would pull support for money if they move to the Big 12.

But how many of those were in LA vs NorCal? We're now comparing NorCal alums to TX alums, and TX alums probably match NorCal alums.

I found an older article from 2016 from the Colorado Alumni magazine. Back then, roughly 8600 lived in SF while 6500 lived in LA. The top 2 non-CO cities. No Texas cities made the top 10 (4 of the 10 were CO cities). In another article 2 years later, it listed the top 10 states, but no details. Besides CO, the top 5 were 1. Cali, 2. Illinois, 3. Texas, 4. New Jersey, 5. New York.

https://www.colorado.edu/coloradan/2016/...-fall-2016

https://www.colorado.edu/coloradan/2018/...u-students

(06-05-2023 01:12 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  A music group has been formed by DavidSt:

Stupendously played (pun intended), IWULT.

(06-05-2023 02:25 PM)GoBuckeyes1047 Wrote:  ... it listed the top 10 states, but no details. Besides CO, the top 5 were 1. Cali, 2. Illinois, 3. Texas, 4. New Jersey, 5. New York. ...

So, 5 of the top 6 are CO or to the east.

All 5 listed above are the highest population states, except FL, IIARC.

(06-05-2023 02:24 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  ...and although I have NO info regarding this, I would NOT be surprised to see Stanford and Cal in the B1G sooner than later, as the B1G just isn't going to have two members 'isloated', and will add more - UO,Udub,Stan, and Cal just seems like a done deal, and if the current CU + whoever else to the XII actually occurs, the B1G will be next on the action list, and I think it will be a pretty quick strike...

...remember, UO and Udub are already 'vetted and petted', or 'tagged and bagged', or whatever, by the B1G...

(06-05-2023 02:24 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  ...and although I have NO info regarding this, I would NOT be surprised to see Stanford and Cal in the B1G sooner than later, as the B1G just isn't going to have two members 'isloated', and will add more - UO,Udub,Stan, and Cal just seems like a done deal, and if the current CU + whoever else to the XII actually occurs, the B1G will be next on the action list, and I think it will be a pretty quick strike...

...remember, UO and Udub are already 'vetted and petted', or 'tagged and bagged', or whatever, by the B1G...

The B1G turned down the UCBOR's request to have Cal tag along with UCLA back in December. Neither UW or UO want to join the B1G at reduced shares and multiple B1G presidents have said that they don't want further western expansion until they see how USCLA goes. If any of those schools, save for Stanford, had a viable invitation to the B1G they would have left already. Right now it doesn't look like the B1G will expand again until 2030. Now, if the ACC GOR somehow is terminated, expansion may happen sooner, but I would put Notre Dame at the top of the B1G's list with UNC and Virginia in second. Today an SEC official said they have no current plans to expand because they got two of the biggest in collegiate sports, Texas and Oklahoma. If all the SEC does is take Clemson and FSU (which I have heard the only schools outside of Notre Dame they feel adds to their conference), then I don't see the B1G adding more than two either. Notre Dame and who then? Do they take Washington for an extra Pacific time zone football game every other week?

(06-05-2023 02:45 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 02:24 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  ...and although I have NO info regarding this, I would NOT be surprised to see Stanford and Cal in the B1G sooner than later, as the B1G just isn't going to have two members 'isloated', and will add more - UO,Udub,Stan, and Cal just seems like a done deal, and if the current CU + whoever else to the XII actually occurs, the B1G will be next on the action list, and I think it will be a pretty quick strike...

...remember, UO and Udub are already 'vetted and petted', or 'tagged and bagged', or whatever, by the B1G...

The B1G turned down the UCBOR's request to have them tag along with UCLA back in December. Neither UW or UO want to join the B1G at reduced shares and multiple B1G presidents have said that they don't want further western expansion until they see how USCLA goes. If any of those schools, save for Stanford, had a viable invitation to the B1G they would have left already. Right now it doesn't look like the B1G will expand again until 2030. Now, if the ACC GOR somehow is terminated, expansion may happen sooner, but I would put Notre Dame at the top of the B1G's list with UNC and Virginia in second. Today an SEC official said they have no current plans to expand because they got two of the biggest in collegiate sports, Texas and Oklahoma. If all the SEC does is take Clemson and FSU (which I have heard the only schools outside of Notre Dame they feel adds to their conference), then I don't see the B1G adding more than two either. Notre Dame and who then? Do they take Washington for an extra Pacific time zone football game every other week?

Have you never read this board, or any other board in the internet, or newspaper clippings out of South Bend? Don't you wonder why I tease them all the time about "independence"?

ND IS NOT JOINING A CONFERENCE FOR FOOTBALL UNLESS FORCED.

(06-05-2023 02:45 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 02:24 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  ...and although I have NO info regarding this, I would NOT be surprised to see Stanford and Cal in the B1G sooner than later, as the B1G just isn't going to have two members 'isloated', and will add more - UO,Udub,Stan, and Cal just seems like a done deal, and if the current CU + whoever else to the XII actually occurs, the B1G will be next on the action list, and I think it will be a pretty quick strike...

...remember, UO and Udub are already 'vetted and petted', or 'tagged and bagged', or whatever, by the B1G...

The B1G turned down the UCBOR's request to have them tag along with UCLA back in December. Neither UW or UO want to join the B1G at reduced shares and multiple B1G presidents have said that they don't want further western expansion until they see how USCLA goes. If any of those schools, save for Stanford, had a viable invitation to the B1G they would have left already. Right now it doesn't look like the B1G will expand again until 2030. Now, if the ACC GOR somehow is terminated, expansion may happen sooner, but I would put Notre Dame at the top of the B1G's list with UNC and Virginia in second. Today an SEC official said they have no current plans to expand because they got two of the biggest in collegiate sports, Texas and Oklahoma. If all the SEC does is take Clemson and FSU (which I have heard the only schools outside of Notre Dame they feel adds to their conference), then I don't see the B1G adding more than two either. Notre Dame and who then? Do they take Washington for an extra Pacific time zone football game every other week?

...and the fact that UO and USC aren't exchanging presents on any given holiday is of interest - I know that USC wanted to block UO from the B1G, but not sure how that will float in the overall shape of things... Remember when A&M was leaving the BigXII to shed themselves from Bevo? (sorry bryanw1995 )

I agree there will be a lot of things which have to happen before more to the B1G, but if somehow all of the 4C schools decide on the BigXII, it may be 'red alert' for everyone at that point, and things could be 'fast tracked' for the remaining schools.

...as to the PAC staying put, it is really in the best interest of SDSU, as well as my Blazers, as if 2 or more jump, at last one AAC team (not named UAB) will be tapped for PAC replenishment - I think y'all (SDSU) are in the PAC regardless, as long as it doesn't truly implode, and then you may well end up in the BigXII with all the 4C schools anyway...

(06-05-2023 02:49 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 02:45 PM)Aztecgolfer Wrote:  

(06-05-2023 02:24 PM)GreenFreakUAB Wrote:  ...and although I have NO info regarding this, I would NOT be surprised to see Stanford and Cal in the B1G sooner than later, as the B1G just isn't going to have two members 'isloated', and will add more - UO,Udub,Stan, and Cal just seems like a done deal, and if the current CU + whoever else to the XII actually occurs, the B1G will be next on the action list, and I think it will be a pretty quick strike...

...remember, UO and Udub are already 'vetted and petted', or 'tagged and bagged', or whatever, by the B1G...

The B1G turned down the UCBOR's request to have them tag along with UCLA back in December. Neither UW or UO want to join the B1G at reduced shares and multiple B1G presidents have said that they don't want further western expansion until they see how USCLA goes. If any of those schools, save for Stanford, had a viable invitation to the B1G they would have left already. Right now it doesn't look like the B1G will expand again until 2030. Now, if the ACC GOR somehow is terminated, expansion may happen sooner, but I would put Notre Dame at the top of the B1G's list with UNC and Virginia in second. Today an SEC official said they have no current plans to expand because they got two of the biggest in collegiate sports, Texas and Oklahoma. If all the SEC does is take Clemson and FSU (which I have heard the only schools outside of Notre Dame they feel adds to their conference), then I don't see the B1G adding more than two either. Notre Dame and who then? Do they take Washington for an extra Pacific time zone football game every other week?

Have you never read this board, or any other board in the internet, or newspaper clippings out of South Bend? Don't you wonder why I tease them all the time about "independence"?

ND IS NOT JOINING A CONFERENCE FOR FOOTBALL UNLESS FORCED.

Not when they have to pay $100M to get out of their ACC association. But, as things consolidate between the P2 can they afford not to at some point? What if they can no longer schedule the teams they want to play. With the SEC and B1G expanding there are only going to be some many OCC games available.

Prime might be able to get Texas recruits, sure, but he can recruit anywhere IMO. That said, Colorado's heyday was made by recruiting athletes out of California. There is a 30 for 30 on it. Some of you that want them so bad need to do your homework.