(10-18-2023 07:20 PM)olddawg Wrote:  If the Bowls are not run by the NCAA, what's to prevent ESPN from saying "this is ridiculous" and putting us in an attractive Bowl matchup, regardless of whether there are/ aren't enough qualifying teams?

That's a great question! Screw Baker and his flying monkeys.

I wonder, however, if ESPN would be willing to go around the organization they have such a solid relationship with and that can do so much for them.

(10-18-2023 07:01 PM)Xeonon Wrote:  Honest question, can we do ANYTHING legally without seeming like complete babies or is it best to keep winning and let the media do their job?

It doesn't take a legal action to be seen as that from some, as evident on twitter and the SBC boards.

Heck, beating the NCAA in court (or more likely in advance of court) may actually change the current baby persona to that of a hero.

(10-18-2023 06:59 PM)jmufbs Wrote:  Well, this is probably something that Marshall did not want to see 24 hours before our Kickoff - you know what this will do to our guys' motivation now. ESPN, on the other hand, should be thrilled - they have plenty of content now to discuss and should rip Baker and the NCAA a new one all night. i have a feeling , knowing the VA AG, this is not the end of this. he does not lie down easily.

I feel kind of opposite. I hate the timing of the announcement as a distraction for us and the players, but have hope the HCCC delivered the "news" to the team, that it doesn't change anything, a bunch of coach speak, now go do your job and kill Marshall. I think the news helps Marshall more than hurts them tonight, but I hope we pound them harder now.

Whelp, this made USAToday front page sports

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...234324007/

(10-18-2023 10:10 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  Whelp, this made USAToday front page sports

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...234324007/

would be nice if one didn't need a usatoday subscription to read it

(10-18-2023 07:01 PM)Xeonon Wrote:  Honest question, can we do ANYTHING legally without seeming like complete babies or is it best to keep winning and let the media do their job?

Winning is key. No doubt about that.

But no party can make arbitrary and capricious “rules” and think they are legally binding on another party, especially if they impose demonstrable harm to one party. The NCAA is screwing JMU…and now “Charlie” is trying to screw the VA AG and tell him to lie down and like it.

Time for the “baby” gloves to come off.

Here's an ESPN story on how difficult it will be for JMU to get into a bowl.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ligibility

(10-18-2023 11:12 PM)JMUsince89 Wrote:  

(10-18-2023 10:10 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  Whelp, this made USAToday front page sports

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...234324007/

would be nice if one didn't need a usatoday subscription to read it

I went to USA today home page, sports, scrolled down to college football, and was able to read it. Can't explain why it asked me to pay when I clicked the same link from the board

If the current system isn't run by the NCAA, then why do they have so much power preventing teams in "transition"?

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(10-19-2023 07:59 AM)bridgeforthduke Wrote:  Here's an ESPN story on how difficult it will be for JMU to get into a bowl.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...ligibility

Great article and just adds to the media blitz and it will only get stronger if we keep winning.

(10-19-2023 08:14 AM)hburg Wrote:  If the current system isn't run by the NCAA, then why do they have so much power preventing teams in "transition"?

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Valid question. I think this article explains it well.

https://footballscoop.com/news/ncaa-deni...l-eligible

Basically, it's the other schools. The member schools of FBS make the rules and the NCAA enforces those rules, even though they don't make the rules themselves. While the NCAA doesn't run the bowls, the same FBS member schools do.

I just wish we'd put all this talk to rest and keep on winning, things will take care of themselves.

Quote:In his first team meeting before this season, Cignetti told his players, "Look, we've got to take control of what we control, control the controllables, and if we take care of that, then a lot can happen."

"I'm a firm believer that common sense overrides all the rules," Cignetti said.

"I want to play in the conference championship game," Cignetti said. "That's our goal -- to be the conference champ. We already beat last year's champ [the Dukes won 16-14 at Troy on Sept. 16]. We want to play for the conference championship at JMU. But there's a lot of football to be played, so let's not get too far ahead of ourselves."

I suppose, if nothing else, the state could sponsor a game between us and Liberty or VT. That'd settle a few questions.

Didn't the SWAC and MEAC invent a bowl since they couldn't ever win a FCD playoff game? Approved and sanctioned now but someone had to kick that off out of the blue

My guess is that the only thing stopping a private bowl is getting it televised (many options) and it wouldn't ever be in the official NCAA records (big whoop)....oh and the NCAA might diss us forever...that's no bueno

Barstool personality PFT Commenter, a JMU grad, had a great little rant about JMU on his podcast yesterday. Barstool sponsors a bowl game and he said he wants to invite JMU

I watched last years Barstools bowl and it definitely added a fun aspect to the typical boring midweek bowl game

(10-19-2023 09:04 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  Barstool personality PFT Commenter, a JMU grad, had a great little rant about JMU on his podcast yesterday. Barstool sponsors a bowl game and he said he wants to invite JMU

I watched last years Barstools bowl and it definitely added a fun aspect to the typical boring midweek bowl game

link/source/podcast name?

(10-19-2023 09:08 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  

(10-19-2023 09:04 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote:  Barstool personality PFT Commenter, a JMU grad, had a great little rant about JMU on his podcast yesterday. Barstool sponsors a bowl game and he said he wants to invite JMU

I watched last years Barstools bowl and it definitely added a fun aspect to the typical boring midweek bowl game

link/source/podcast name?

Pardon my Take, its on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Their most recent episode

Jason Miyares might not be effin around here? He is a Duke afterall...

(10-19-2023 08:50 AM)94computerguy Wrote:  I suppose, if nothing else, the state could sponsor a game between us and Liberty or VT. That'd settle a few questions.

I’ve seen a little chatter ESPN could add another bowl game to get JMU in if it came down to it, they did something similar in 2021 I believe?

I’d prefer other opponents though.