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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 04:30 PM)PuddlePirate Wrote: (10-15-2023 02:50 PM)Ragu Wrote: (10-15-2023 02:01 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (10-15-2023 01:55 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote: (10-15-2023 05:40 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Looks like Army to AAC is on the rocks.
"We’ve had some talks with them (Army),” he (Aresco) said. “I don’t know what’s ultimately gonna happen. If we were to invite them, they would have to make some decisions. But it hasn’t reached that point yet. And I don’t know if it will.”
Aresco was cagey about who will replace SMU. He has received " a lot of calls" from schools wanting an invite.
“Football drives it,” Aresco said. “And football’s why certain schools can invest, certain schools can’t. The one thing in our conference is that you’ve gotta be able to invest to a certain level, because we really do wanna be right there with the (Power 5 conferences)." It is impossible to catch up to the P-5 investments. The gap is vast and widens each year.
https://dailymemphian.com/subscriber/sec...ike-aresco
I sense another disastrous addition. I would rather sit tight than further dilute the AAC's competitive strength.
I don't think Aresco will tip his hand. Army wants in or the negotiations never would have been made public. Can Army rearrange their future schedules? I think that is the hurdle that is still being addressed.
And should Army not happen, I highly doubt there is enough consensus to add anyone. There just is no value or cultural fit available at the moment.
There are better performing schools presently available than the present members. Adding a better performing school would increase the net performance of the AAC. The issue is whether ESPN will sufficintly pay for the move.
Better than present members including Tulsa, temple, ECU and south Florida? Or are you going to still ignore results like Fau 56-14 over USF and beating Tulsa too?
Most of the AAC teams left aren't out of the league of the newcomers
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I don't think most of the AAC legacy schools are powers. Some are good. Some aren't. None are out of the league of the 6 new schools. The Memphis fan likes to hammer the 6 new schools while ignoring many left are nothing special either.
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Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
The Former CUSA Doormat Memphis Tigers fan?
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 04:38 PM)owl at the moon Wrote: The AAC somehow found a way to overcome the burden of incorporating The Former CUSA Doormat Memphis Tigers, and the rest of the original CUSA7. I have a feeling they can do it again.
CUSA Doormat? Guess again, turbo.
Code:
95–96 22–8 11–3 1st NCAA Division I first round
96–97 16–15 10–4 T–1st NIT first round
97–98 17–12 12–4 1st NIT second round
98–99 13–15 6–10 T–2nd
99–00 15–16 7–9 T–3rd
00–01 21–15 10–6 T–2nd NIT Third Place
01–02 27–9 12–4 1st NIT Champion
02–03 23–7 13–3 1st NCAA Division I first round
03–04 22–8 12–4 T–1st NCAA Division I second round
04–05 22–16 9–7 T–6th NIT Semifinal
05–06 33–4 13–1 1st NCAA Division I Elite Eight
06–07 33–4 16–0 1st NCAA Division I Elite Eight
07–08 38-2 16–0 1st NCAA Division I Runner-up
08–09 33–4 16–0 1st NCAA Division I Sweet Sixteen
09–10 24–10 13–3 2nd NIT second round
10–11 25–10 10–6 4th NCAA Division I second round
11–12 26–9 13–3 1st NCAA Division I second round
12–13 30–4 16–0 1st NCAA Division I third round
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Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
Former CUSA Basketball Flagship Memphis Tigers.
I’ll give you that.
This is an Army to AAC (football only) thread.
In football, we are still talking about the Former CUSA Doormat Memphis Tigers.
You’ve come a long way baby. Thanks Mike Aresco!
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 04:56 PM)owl at the moon Wrote: Former CUSA Basketball Flagship Memphis Tigers.
I’ll give you that.
This is an Army to AAC (football only) thread.
In football, we are still talking about the Former CUSA Doormat Memphis Tigers.
You’ve come a long way baby. Thanks Mike Aresco!
What are you talking about? We left CUSA 11 years ago, and had the best football record in the AAC for the entirety of the league, until the last year or so. Def the best of those left, by far.
Get over it.
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 05:02 PM)TripleA Wrote: (10-15-2023 04:56 PM)owl at the moon Wrote: Former CUSA Basketball Flagship Memphis Tigers.
I’ll give you that.
This is an Army to AAC (football only) thread.
In football, we are still talking about the Former CUSA Doormat Memphis Tigers.
You’ve come a long way baby. Thanks Mike Aresco!
What are you talking about? We left CUSA 11 years ago, and had the best football record in the AAC for the entirety of the league, until the last year or so. Def the best of those left, by far.
Get over it.
He takes a passive-aggressive dig at Memphis every chance he gets. Currently fighting with Tulane fans over their former coach in our old game thread. Sour grapes have never been so sweet.
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Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 05:06 PM)msu35 Wrote: (10-15-2023 05:02 PM)TripleA Wrote: (10-15-2023 04:56 PM)owl at the moon Wrote: Former CUSA Basketball Flagship Memphis Tigers.
I’ll give you that.
This is an Army to AAC (football only) thread.
In football, we are still talking about the Former CUSA Doormat Memphis Tigers.
You’ve come a long way baby. Thanks Mike Aresco!
What are you talking about? We left CUSA 11 years ago, and had the best football record in the AAC for the entirety of the league, until the last year or so. Def the best of those left, by far.
Get over it.
He takes a passive-aggressive dig at Memphis every chance he gets. Currently fighting with Tulane fans over their former coach in our old game thread. Sour grapes have never been so sweet.
You got the last laugh with the Big East invite! We just had to settle for the AAC invite.
Love my Memphis peeps, especially you two. Looking forward to the day when my team can go toe to to with Mem in one of the big two sports, it could be this year or next, or it could be never.
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 05:15 PM)owl at the moon Wrote: Looking forward to the day when my team can go toe to to with Mem in one of the big two sports, it could be this year or next, or it could be never.
I look forward to that day as well. There is nothing better than to be in a conference where everyone is competitive and firing on all cylinders.
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
If Army doesn't join it shouldn't be seen as a failure for Aresco. I believe the thing that would hold them back is their schedule commitments for the next several years. It seems clear they have a strong desire to join a conference, specifically the American.
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 04:53 PM)msu35 Wrote: (10-15-2023 04:38 PM)owl at the moon Wrote: The AAC somehow found a way to overcome the burden of incorporating The Former CUSA Doormat Memphis Tigers, and the rest of the original CUSA7. I have a feeling they can do it again.
CUSA Doormat? Guess again, turbo.
Code:
95–96 22–8 11–3 1st NCAA Division I first round
96–97 16–15 10–4 T–1st NIT first round
97–98 17–12 12–4 1st NIT second round
98–99 13–15 6–10 T–2nd
99–00 15–16 7–9 T–3rd
00–01 21–15 10–6 T–2nd NIT Third Place
01–02 27–9 12–4 1st NIT Champion
02–03 23–7 13–3 1st NCAA Division I first round
03–04 22–8 12–4 T–1st NCAA Division I second round
04–05 22–16 9–7 T–6th NIT Semifinal
05–06 33–4 13–1 1st NCAA Division I Elite Eight
06–07 33–4 16–0 1st NCAA Division I Elite Eight
07–08 38-2 16–0 1st NCAA Division I Runner-up
08–09 33–4 16–0 1st NCAA Division I Sweet Sixteen
09–10 24–10 13–3 2nd NIT second round
10–11 25–10 10–6 4th NCAA Division I second round
11–12 26–9 13–3 1st NCAA Division I second round
12–13 30–4 16–0 1st NCAA Division I third round
How do you derive the code?
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
I enjoyed your post Rice fan.
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 09:49 AM)Poseidon Wrote: (10-15-2023 08:07 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote: (10-15-2023 05:40 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Looks like Army to AAC is on the rocks.
"We’ve had some talks with them (Army),” he (Aresco) said. “I don’t know what’s ultimately gonna happen. If we were to invite them, they would have to make some decisions. But it hasn’t reached that point yet. And I don’t know if it will.”
Aresco was cagey about who will replace SMU. He has received " a lot of calls" from schools wanting an invite.
“Football drives it,” Aresco said. “And football’s why certain schools can invest, certain schools can’t. The one thing in our conference is that you’ve gotta be able to invest to a certain level, because we really do wanna be right there with the (Power 5 conferences)." It is impossible to catch up to the P-5 investments. The gap is vast and widens each year.
https://dailymemphian.com/subscriber/sec...ike-aresco
I sense another disastrous addition. I would rather sit tight than further dilute the AAC's competitive strength.
WUT?
An Army Snub of the AAC
AGAIN?
Who didn’t see that coming . . . .
I think I saw the official minimum to add was you had to beat ULM by more than 2 points.
So why add Army then? They lost to ULM
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 06:20 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (10-15-2023 04:53 PM)msu35 Wrote: (10-15-2023 04:38 PM)owl at the moon Wrote: The AAC somehow found a way to overcome the burden of incorporating The Former CUSA Doormat Memphis Tigers, and the rest of the original CUSA7. I have a feeling they can do it again.
CUSA Doormat? Guess again, turbo.
How do you derive the code?
I pulled the data from a table on a website, but that can't be what you're asking about. I'm assuming you're wondering how I formatted the data in a tabular format using the "code" block? Essentially when using the [code] tag in the post editor, it forces the use of a fixed width font for the text and doesn't compress spaces so that it's possible to format the content in a useful way. I hope that clarifies.
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 06:22 PM)panicstricken Wrote: I enjoyed your post Rice fan.
Misery enjoys company.
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 06:25 PM)msu35 Wrote: (10-15-2023 06:20 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: (10-15-2023 04:53 PM)msu35 Wrote: (10-15-2023 04:38 PM)owl at the moon Wrote: The AAC somehow found a way to overcome the burden of incorporating The Former CUSA Doormat Memphis Tigers, and the rest of the original CUSA7. I have a feeling they can do it again.
CUSA Doormat? Guess again, turbo.
How do you derive the code?
I pulled the data from a table on a website, but that can't be what you're asking about. I'm assuming you're wondering how I formatted the data in a tabular format using the "code" block? Essentially when using the [code] tag in the post editor, it forces the use of a fixed width font for the text and doesn't compress spaces so that it's possible to format the content in a useful way. I hope that clarifies.
Thank you.
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 05:32 PM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote: If Army doesn't join it shouldn't be seen as a failure for Aresco. I believe the thing that would hold them back is their schedule commitments for the next several years. It seems clear they have a strong desire to join a conference, specifically the American.
There's no reason I can think of to rush their membership. Give them 2-3 years so they don't have to buy out so many games. All that would really matter is the commitment. Give them a target date of 2026. There's no harm in that. It's a long-term plan, but a plan nonetheless.
As far as other candidates are concerned, just leave it alone for now. There's an outside chance that Air Force and Colorado State are available in the future, particularly if Washington State and Oregon State pull off a miracle, and end up in the Big12.
Beyond that, I don't care. I have too much going on in my life to worry about the ACC, and how that may or may not affect Rice. I'm just glad we're not in CUSA anymore, and that we'll have a new football coach after this season. I'll be pulling for Rice no matter who we play.
Trying to read the tea leaves and decipher what will happen in realignment is just nonsense. None of it really matters. Just enjoy the here and now.
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Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 06:22 PM)panicstricken Wrote: I enjoyed your post Rice fan.
Thx but our pleasantries must end here.
For this week we do battle once more for
THE WILLIAMS CUP
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 01:56 PM)Side.Show.Joe Wrote: (10-15-2023 08:07 AM)Bobcat87 Wrote: (10-15-2023 05:40 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote: Looks like Army to AAC is on the rocks.
"We’ve had some talks with them (Army),” he (Aresco) said. “I don’t know what’s ultimately gonna happen. If we were to invite them, they would have to make some decisions. But it hasn’t reached that point yet. And I don’t know if it will.”
Aresco was cagey about who will replace SMU. He has received " a lot of calls" from schools wanting an invite.
“Football drives it,” Aresco said. “And football’s why certain schools can invest, certain schools can’t. The one thing in our conference is that you’ve gotta be able to invest to a certain level, because we really do wanna be right there with the (Power 5 conferences)." It is impossible to catch up to the P-5 investments. The gap is vast and widens each year.
https://dailymemphian.com/subscriber/sec...ike-aresco
I sense another disastrous addition. I would rather sit tight than further dilute the AAC's competitive strength.
WUT?
An Army Snub of the AAC
AGAIN?
Who didn’t see that coming . . . .
Trolling hard today I see.....
. . . not really. I just find it fascinating that a conference so “Full of itself,” P6 crap, ya da, ya da, ya da is having soooo much trouble finding replacements for its dearly departed.
I mean, take y’all for example, and by y’all I mean the CUSA 6, or whatever you’re going by these days . . . . Hardly First Choice when it came time to “Backfill.”
If it’s truly such a Great Conference, why all the trouble finding replacements. Quite the conundrum.
Personally, I think if Army can’t/won’t come, y’all should stand pat. I’d think that the rejection would be starting to sting about now.
Ga. State might be an option . . . But then again . . . .
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
If you factor out the costs of buying out future scheduled games, what would be the revenue benefit for Army in joining the AAC ?
How much more tv revenue ?
Watching Navy struggle 5 of the past 6 years, they may be wary of their long term ability to compete in the AAC ?
I'm concerned for Navy, given the rule changes on cut blocking & the ability of AAC opponents to reload via the portal every season.
Like Navy, Army's struggling with their new offense this season & probably won't be bowl eligible with this year's tougher schedule.
Air Force is still benefiting from their Covid roster turnback year, & their offense seems to have adapted better to the rules changes. Calhoun's offense was never as pure T.O. as was Monken's & Navy's.
Wait & see might be the smart move for Army, right now.
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RE: Army to AAC in Peril? If not Army, who?
(10-15-2023 04:52 PM)owl at the moon Wrote: The Former CUSA Doormat Memphis Tigers fan?
And I thought I liked you.
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