(12-28-2023 12:29 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(12-28-2023 12:25 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Bowers isnt playing and FSU will not be losing anyone as good as him.

Just… you know… the whole team…

I just let out the saddest sigh, and FSU isn't even a team I remotely root for.

(12-28-2023 02:41 PM)BnG_Jacket Wrote:  

(12-28-2023 12:29 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(12-28-2023 12:25 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Bowers isnt playing and FSU will not be losing anyone as good as him.

Just… you know… the whole team…

I just let out the saddest sigh, and FSU isn't even a team I remotely root for.

FSU’s opt out, transfer, injury situation is the worst I’ve ever seen. I really think they should just boycott the game.

Sending out the FSU Scout team against Georgia is going to get someone seriously injured.

B12? Truck Stop? Misfits? Unwanted? Castaways? 5-1 baby! We play football baby!

ACC? Sugar Magnolia League? 4-5! Dayum!

As of today (12/29/2023):

1. Big Ten (1.000, 3-0)
2. Big 12 (0.714, 5-2)
3. Conference USA (0.667, 2-1)
4. Pac-12 (0.600, 3-2)
5. ACC (0.444, 4-5)
6. Sun Belt (0.417, 5-7)
7 (tie). Mid-American (0.400, 2-3)
7 (tie). American (0.400, 2-3)
9. Mountain West (0.333, 2-4)
10. SEC (0.000, 0-1)

(12-29-2023 12:18 AM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  B12? Truck Stop? Misfits? Unwanted? Castaways? 5-1 baby! We play football baby!

ACC? Sugar Magnolia League? 4-5! Dayum!

What’s the truck stop thing? Where you all go to date?


Let me expound on this because you specifically targeted the ACC for some reason out of nowhere.

I genuinely don't understand the truck stop reference, but apparently Cincinnati fans love them. The only reference I recall is Bill Walton calling the Big Ten a "truck stop conference" because the colleges are in generally remote(?) towns. Which is really dumb, but it's Bill Walton and UCLA is headed to the Big Ten so it's ironically funny.

Also, the Big XII has a very clear identity and only a couple of "misfits". The Big XII is a Central/Mountain Time Zone conference made up of Big 8, SWC, and (old) WAC schools (remnants might make sense). Also, we see WVU and two G5 out of footprint backfills in UCF and Cincinnati. Are these the misfits?

The "misfits" went 1-1 and one of the "misfits" only had three wins and didn't qualify for a bowl game—yet they are the loudest here.

BTW, I am NOT rooting for Dook, State, UVa, Clemson, Miami, FSU, or really any conference rivals/foes in opt-out exhibition games or generally ANY games! LOL

Finally, 11/14 (78%) ACC programs are bowling. That is a very strong regular season. The Big XII had 9/14 (64%). Ultimately, the ACC finished with more bowl eligible teams. Huh.

(12-28-2023 12:29 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(12-28-2023 12:25 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Bowers isnt playing and FSU will not be losing anyone as good as him.

Just… you know… the whole team…

Looks like UGA will be 19 players, this opt out issue isnt a one sided game changer.

(12-29-2023 08:47 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(12-28-2023 12:29 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(12-28-2023 12:25 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Bowers isnt playing and FSU will not be losing anyone as good as him.

Just… you know… the whole team…

Looks like UGA will be 19 players, this opt out issue isnt a one sided game changer.

Yes, IIRC, Georgia will be missing two key starters who were injured in the SEC title game - Brock Bowers and tackle Amarius Mims. They also have about 20 players who have jumped in the portal who will not play.

So I do not know why the media narrative is that the Georgia team is "basically whole" for the game while FSU has been "decimated" by enormous numbers of opt outs and transfers.

FSU has been decimated by enormous numbers of opt outs and transfers, but ... so has Georgia. Both teams will be skeletons of the teams that played the season. Both.

(12-29-2023 09:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-29-2023 08:47 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(12-28-2023 12:29 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(12-28-2023 12:25 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Bowers isnt playing and FSU will not be losing anyone as good as him.

Just… you know… the whole team…

Looks like UGA will be 19 players, this opt out issue isnt a one sided game changer.

Yes, IIRC, Georgia will be missing two key starters who were injured in the SEC title game - Brock Bowers and tackle Amarius Mims. They also have about 20 players who have jumped in the portal who will not play.

So I do not know why the media narrative is that the Georgia team is "basically whole" for the game while FSU has been "decimated" by enormous numbers of opt outs and transfers.

FSU has been decimated by enormous numbers of opt outs and transfers, but ... so has Georgia. Both teams will be skeletons of the teams that played the season. Both.

My info is from locak UGA fans so may not be accurate, but they are saying 84 isnt playing either and he is a good player. Bowers and 84 out and there goes the receiving corp.

Well. at least the game will be played in Miami in the winter, so somebody will show up to watch.

I trust somebody will post the league records either today or at the end of the day's bowl action.

(12-29-2023 09:14 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(12-29-2023 08:47 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(12-28-2023 12:29 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  

(12-28-2023 12:25 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  Bowers isnt playing and FSU will not be losing anyone as good as him.

Just… you know… the whole team…

Looks like UGA will be 19 players, this opt out issue isnt a one sided game changer.

Yes, IIRC, Georgia will be missing two key starters who were injured in the SEC title game - Brock Bowers and tackle Amarius Mims. They also have about 20 players who have jumped in the portal who will not play.

So I do not know why the media narrative is that the Georgia team is "basically whole" for the game while FSU has been "decimated" by enormous numbers of opt outs and transfers.

FSU has been decimated by enormous numbers of opt outs and transfers, but ... so has Georgia. Both teams will be skeletons of the teams that played the season. Both.

IMHO, the narrative is based off Georgia having a stronger overall team that can go with their 2nd and 3rd group and still win against most teams. Most are not convinced FSU's roster is that strong once the primary players are off the board.

Taking the top players from Georgia doesn't "decimate" that team.

Here's an update on where things stand before the NYD games -


https://www.ncaa.com/news/football/artic...owl-season

Also the Independents, American, ACC, MWC, Sun Belt and MAC are done for the season. Remaining bowl games involve the following conferences -

B1G - at least 3 games
SEC - at least 3 games
PAC - at least 2 games
XII - at least 1 game
CUSA - 1 game

At the end of the 41 bowls, here is where the conferences stand:

P5
PAC 5-3
B1G 5-4
SEC 5-4
B12 5-4
ACC 6-6 (INCL ND)

G5
AAC 3-3
USA 2-2
MWC 3-4
SBC 5-7
MAC 2-4

And all is right in the CFP with the only two undefeated FBS teams playing for the championship. For all the complaining, bowl pairings turned out pretty well for everybody. Nobody can crow and nobody need cry.

(01-02-2024 08:47 AM)ken d Wrote:  At the end of the 41 bowls, here is where the conferences stand:

P5
PAC 5-3
B1G 5-4
SEC 5-4
B12 5-4
ACC 6-6 (INCL ND)

G5
AAC 3-3
USA 2-2
MWC 3-4
SBC 5-7
MAC 2-4

And all is right in the CFP with the only two undefeated FBS teams playing for the championship. For all the complaining, bowl pairings turned out pretty well for everybody. Nobody can crow and nobody need cry.

But but but! If FSU had been in the playoffs all those players would t have opted out.

Alabama lost. Georgia should have been in!

College football fans can crow about anything.

(01-02-2024 08:47 AM)ken d Wrote:  At the end of the 41 bowls, here is where the conferences stand:

P5
PAC 5-3
B1G 5-4
SEC 5-4
B12 5-4
ACC 6-6 (INCL ND)

G5
AAC 3-3
USA 2-2
MWC 3-4
SBC 5-7
MAC 2-4

And all is right in the CFP with the only two undefeated FBS teams playing for the championship. For all the complaining, bowl pairings turned out pretty well for everybody. Nobody can crow and nobody need cry.

Amazingly even after the bowls. It’s great that the only undefeated teams are playing for the championship.

(01-02-2024 09:06 AM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  

(01-02-2024 08:47 AM)ken d Wrote:  At the end of the 41 bowls, here is where the conferences stand:

P5
PAC 5-3
B1G 5-4
SEC 5-4
B12 5-4
ACC 6-6 (INCL ND)

G5
AAC 3-3
USA 2-2
MWC 3-4
SBC 5-7
MAC 2-4

And all is right in the CFP with the only two undefeated FBS teams playing for the championship. For all the complaining, bowl pairings turned out pretty well for everybody. Nobody can crow and nobody need cry.

Amazingly even after the bowls. It’s great that the only undefeated teams are playing for the championship.

I'd disagree there. The FSU team that was dismantled was undefeated.

All the bowls proved to me is that the playoffs needed to have at least 8 teams this year.

Mich, Wash, Tex, Bama, FSU, Georgia, Ohio St, Oregon

Under this scenerio, all 8 teams don't have the opt outs/transfers that hurt them so much during their bowl games. The opt outs/transfers especially hurt FSU and Ohio St.

(01-02-2024 09:13 AM)goofus Wrote:  All the bowls proved to me is that the playoffs needed to have at least 8 teams this year.

Mich, Wash, Tex, Bama, FSU, Georgia, Ohio St, Oregon

Under this scenerio, all 8 teams don't have the opt outs/transfers that hurt them so much during their bowl games. The opt outs/transfers especially hurt FSU and Ohio St.

Bowl season proved Ohio St and FSU didnt need to be in. I would add Ole Miss and .... Arizona/Missouri?

Also proved the gap between top G5 and top P2 is large. And no dominant G5 league anymore, all are about the same with the one getting a NY6 or playoff bid will be the top one.

(01-02-2024 09:24 AM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  

(01-02-2024 09:13 AM)goofus Wrote:  All the bowls proved to me is that the playoffs needed to have at least 8 teams this year.

Mich, Wash, Tex, Bama, FSU, Georgia, Ohio St, Oregon

Under this scenerio, all 8 teams don't have the opt outs/transfers that hurt them so much during their bowl games. The opt outs/transfers especially hurt FSU and Ohio St.

Bowl season proved Ohio St and FSU didnt need to be in. I would add Ole Miss and .... Arizona/Missouri?

Also proved the gap between top G5 and top P2 is large. And no dominant G5 league anymore, all are about the same with the one getting a NY6 or playoff bid will be the top one.

Wrong.

And if you think OSU and FSU don't belong in a 8-team playoff, I don't know what to tell you.

(01-02-2024 08:54 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  

(01-02-2024 08:47 AM)ken d Wrote:  At the end of the 41 bowls, here is where the conferences stand:

P5
PAC 5-3
B1G 5-4
SEC 5-4
B12 5-4
ACC 6-6 (INCL ND)

G5
AAC 3-3
USA 2-2
MWC 3-4
SBC 5-7
MAC 2-4

And all is right in the CFP with the only two undefeated FBS teams playing for the championship. For all the complaining, bowl pairings turned out pretty well for everybody. Nobody can crow and nobody need cry.

But but but! If FSU had been in the playoffs all those players would t have opted out.

Alabama lost. Georgia should have been in!

College football fans can crow about anything.

I still think that FSU got screwed, but they were barely more deserving that Alabama, and it's hard to get too worked up about giving the SEC champion the benefit of the doubt. However, it's easy to get worked up about that STUPID rule about taking injuries into account. FSU should have been evaluated for their entire season, more like the way the NCAAT selection committee works, and I hope that this "guideline" is changed in the future.

I predict that Washington wins the CFP this year. Nothing against Michigan, they've worked hard and finally overcame Alabama. They'd be a deserving champion, too, if they pull it off. However, Washington is more battle-tested over the course of the entire year, the Pac was a better Conference, Penix is the best player on either team, and I would rather have DeBoer than Harbaugh coaching for one game with everything on the line.