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RE: Nick Saban retiring
Low and Finebaum discussing Lanning and Sark and his show.
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(01-10-2024 05:40 PM)Just Joe Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:33 PM)johnintx Wrote:  
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(01-10-2024 05:19 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  Dabo time?

Don't think so. I think the Alabama boosters would see his comments about everything and think he's way too behind the times right now.

I think his time has come and gone. He's been slow to adapt to NIL and the portal. I think there's a better chance of him getting totally out of coaching than getting the Alabama job.

Bama is going to want someone young and hungry...like Dabo was 15 years ago.

Yeah. If Saban had retired 5 years ago the 100% focus would've been Dabo. His star has faded a bit and we need to see if he can compete in the transfer portal/NIL era. Besides, he's pretty much a made man at Clemson until he decides to walk away or chase an NFL gig. There's a level of pressure at Alabama, particularly following the GOAT, that he doesn't need.

If you’re Bama, you get somebody who has won a natty. The fact he’s alumni is like gift wrapping paper with a bow.

If it’s not Dabo, hello Shula 2.0.
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After reading the Missing Ring years ago Bryant is the GOAT. Saban is 2nd.
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RE: Nick Saban retiring
(01-10-2024 05:46 PM)esayem Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:40 PM)Just Joe Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:33 PM)johnintx Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:21 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:19 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  Dabo time?

Don't think so. I think the Alabama boosters would see his comments about everything and think he's way too behind the times right now.

I think his time has come and gone. He's been slow to adapt to NIL and the portal. I think there's a better chance of him getting totally out of coaching than getting the Alabama job.

Bama is going to want someone young and hungry...like Dabo was 15 years ago.

Yeah. If Saban had retired 5 years ago the 100% focus would've been Dabo. His star has faded a bit and we need to see if he can compete in the transfer portal/NIL era. Besides, he's pretty much a made man at Clemson until he decides to walk away or chase an NFL gig. There's a level of pressure at Alabama, particularly following the GOAT, that he doesn't need.

If you’re Bama, you get somebody who has won a natty. The fact he’s alumni is like gift wrapping paper with a bow.

If it’s not Dabo, hello Shula 2.0.

yeah sorry but disagree. Dabo with his anti-NIL/transfer portal schtick now I think will scare the hell out of Alabama. I think he's stuck with Clemson.
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Finebaum and Low say Steve Sarkisian is “well liked” in Tuscaloosa after being OC. Lanning, of course, was a GA there.
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(01-10-2024 05:22 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:20 PM)unalions Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:19 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

Well, Lanning is certainly a great option!

Phil Knight cracking open the checkbook.

Lanning can win just as big at Oregon and get more credit for building something, plus he can turn this into a huge payday from PN. Kiffin would be more apt to listen if he thinks that he's hit his ceiling at Ole' Miss, but if I were him (or any other top coach), I'd want to let the next guy fail to live up to Saban before taking over.

I've said this several times this year, Saban might have done his best job coaching ever in 2023. Alabama no longer has the Talent advantage, and they no longer have the $$ advantage to secure the future talent, either. Just looking at the SEC and nowhere else, how many big programs are desperate for improvement and willing to spend whatever it takes to get it? A dozen? The next 10 years are going to be brutal for everybody. People like Saban or, yes, Harbaugh, will be best-positioned for success b/c they can both take good talent and make it great, and they can take great talent and make it even better, too.
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(01-10-2024 05:49 PM)Kyle Mack Wrote:  After reading the Missing Ring years ago Bryant is the GOAT. Saban is 2nd.

Both were the “Greatest of their Era” of college football for sure.
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(01-10-2024 05:46 PM)esayem Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:40 PM)Just Joe Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:33 PM)johnintx Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:21 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:19 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  Dabo time?

Don't think so. I think the Alabama boosters would see his comments about everything and think he's way too behind the times right now.

I think his time has come and gone. He's been slow to adapt to NIL and the portal. I think there's a better chance of him getting totally out of coaching than getting the Alabama job.

Bama is going to want someone young and hungry...like Dabo was 15 years ago.

Yeah. If Saban had retired 5 years ago the 100% focus would've been Dabo. His star has faded a bit and we need to see if he can compete in the transfer portal/NIL era. Besides, he's pretty much a made man at Clemson until he decides to walk away or chase an NFL gig. There's a level of pressure at Alabama, particularly following the GOAT, that he doesn't need.

If you’re Bama, you get somebody who has won a natty. The fact he’s alumni is like gift wrapping paper with a bow.

If it’s not Dabo, hello Shula 2.0.

Gene Chizik has a natty too...
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RE: Nick Saban retiring
(01-10-2024 05:40 PM)Just Joe Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:33 PM)johnintx Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:21 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:19 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  Dabo time?

Don't think so. I think the Alabama boosters would see his comments about everything and think he's way too behind the times right now.

I think his time has come and gone. He's been slow to adapt to NIL and the portal. I think there's a better chance of him getting totally out of coaching than getting the Alabama job.

Bama is going to want someone young and hungry...like Dabo was 15 years ago.

Yeah. If Saban had retired 5 years ago the 100% focus would've been Dabo. His star has faded a bit and we need to see if he can compete in the transfer portal/NIL era. Besides, he's pretty much a made man at Clemson until he decides to walk away or chase an NFL gig. There's a level of pressure at Alabama, particularly following the GOAT, that he doesn't need.

I have a different perspective based on that context. Given the ACC's precarious position and Clemson's need to maintain "brand value" Alabama openly shunning, and/or showing little interest in Dabo would be a pretty damning acknowledgment of his ability to lead the Tigers during this pivotal time period in the program's history.

If I'm Clemson I want Dabo to be a serious candidate for the 'Bama gig. Otherwise, they need to seriously consider moving on from Swinney imo. An "out of touch coach" is the last thing Clemson can afford right now.

I'm interested to see how many 'Bama players leave for the portal. In this era, 'Bama can lose steam VERY quickly given the immediate talent drain that can occur. Gene Stallings had them humming along (1 title) but he was ultimately chased away due to NCAA violations after a pretty short tenure in Tuscaloosa. Otherwise, it took them basically 30 years to find their Bear 2.0.
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(01-10-2024 05:34 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  End of an Era.

GOAT is bandied about a lot but in his case it fits.

Much like with Mike Leach, I hated playing his teams (and probably hated him a little bit too), but I respected the hell out of him as a coach.
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(01-10-2024 05:21 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:19 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  Dabo time?

Don't think so. I think the Alabama boosters would see his comments about everything and think he's way too behind the times right now.

Harbaugh, heh, heh! That would turn some Tide stomachs! It's going to be a very sticky wicket, just like when Bear retired, and they thought they had to have a Bear disciple.

I told my wife a night ago when Kevin Steele left Alabama that was a sure sign Saban was stepping down. I agree with those who wish him a long and happy retirement with his wife. My kid brother spent some time flying Nick and Terry, and Vince and Barbara Dooley around as well as the Bowdens (Bobby & Ann). He loved all of those and I only fail to mention the ones he didn't.
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Wouldn't it be the ultimate heel turn if Mike Norvell leaves FSU for Alabama?
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The idea they'd hire James Franklin is high comedy.

No Kiffin?

I think that Freeman is the most likely of those that Thamel listed. Young, hungry, and he has a better chance to win at Bama than he does at ND. And, hopefully, Swarbrick sees that he's lost 2 coaches in a row to the SEC and decides to follow them and join the SEC with his Irish! COGSCOGS
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(01-10-2024 05:50 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:22 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:20 PM)unalions Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:19 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

Well, Lanning is certainly a great option!

Phil Knight cracking open the checkbook.

Lanning can win just as big at Oregon and get more credit for building something, plus he can turn this into a huge payday from PN. Kiffin would be more apt to listen if he thinks that he's hit his ceiling at Ole' Miss, but if I were him (or any other top coach), I'd want to let the next guy fail to live up to Saban before taking over.

I've said this several times this year, Saban might have done his best job coaching ever in 2023. Alabama no longer has the Talent advantage, and they no longer have the $$ advantage to secure the future talent, either. Just looking at the SEC and nowhere else, how many big programs are desperate for improvement and willing to spend whatever it takes to get it? A dozen? The next 10 years are going to be brutal for everybody. People like Saban or, yes, Harbaugh, will be best-positioned for success b/c they can both take good talent and make it great, and they can take great talent and make it even better, too.

I mean, I saw that this team struggle against South Florida and they didn't look impressive at all. That he was able to rally them and come within a few plays of playing for a national title is amazing.
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The idea they'd hire James Franklin is high comedy.

For a guy who's been around CFB a long time, Thamel doesn't seem to understand that money can make those "big buyouts" and "entrenched coaches" not a big deal. Alabama is the Mecca of CFB, they want to keep this incredible 15+ year run going, and money is not a problem. The real problem is following in the steps of Saban but the Tide will get their guy.

"money is not a problem"? There are 10 SEC schools that can and would pay just as much for a coach as Alabama. There's a market, heck, Saban and Kirby set the market. Are you gonna pay Saban's replacement twice as much as you paid Saban? The lure of Alabama is all the talent there right now, and a young/hungry coach might just be cocky enough to think that he could get more out of all that talent than Saban could.

I think it will be Kiffin, or, if not, a hungry young guy like Freeman or perhaps even Willie Taggert.
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If I was a coach I wouldn’t want to follow Saban. Too much pressure…. Alabama fans are crazy. They’re going to expect the same results in what’s now a different world.

Now when Saban’s replacement fails… That job will be a lot more desirable.

You don’t want to be the man that replaces the man. You want to be the man who replaces the man that replaced the man.
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(01-10-2024 05:34 PM)Just Joe Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:30 PM)Gemofthehills Wrote:  DeMeco Ryans next UAT coach

The Texans won the division in his first year and have an outright star rookie QB. Successful NFL coaches don't leave for college, even if it's home sweet home.

Ryans only making around 4 million. Tuscaloosa would be a good raise.
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The greatest! He will be missed by college football. Enjoy retirement!
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(01-10-2024 06:01 PM)bryanw1995 Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:42 PM)Keyser Soze Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:35 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  
(01-10-2024 05:24 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

The idea they'd hire James Franklin is high comedy.

For a guy who's been around CFB a long time, Thamel doesn't seem to understand that money can make those "big buyouts" and "entrenched coaches" not a big deal. Alabama is the Mecca of CFB, they want to keep this incredible 15+ year run going, and money is not a problem. The real problem is following in the steps of Saban but the Tide will get their guy.

"money is not a problem"? There are 10 SEC schools that can and would pay just as much for a coach as Alabama. There's a market, heck, Saban and Kirby set the market. Are you gonna pay Saban's replacement twice as much as you paid Saban? The lure of Alabama is all the talent there right now, and a young/hungry coach might just be cocky enough to think that he could get more out of all that talent than Saban could.

I think it will be Kiffin, or, if not, a hungry young guy like Freeman or perhaps even Willie Taggert.

Well let's see, It won't be Sarkisian. It won't be Smart. Agree with Stever Dabo is behind the times. It won't be the Washington coach because the last time Alabama hired the Washington coach he used the university credit card for hookers in Mobile and never coached a game. Ole Miss seems to exist to lose head coaches to other SEC programs. Ding ding, we have a winner! Plus, Iffy Kiffy keeps his bags packed!
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