uhmump95 Wrote:That was your cue to read slower.  That helps people such as yourself who have a problem with reading comprehension.  Obviously you missed it.

I comprehend logic and reason, which is why pretty much everything your write is greek to me.

I'm actually starting to pity you now.

gruehls Wrote:niner,

you cannot knock out the sta-puft marshmallow man by punching him. you just get sticky hands.

and you can't appeal to his higher brain functions 'cuz he doesn't have a brain.

you have to get in close and use your lighter.

:roflol: :roflol: For some reason that has me really tickled :roflol: :roflol:

Quote:Ray, when someone asks if you're a God, you say "Yes"!

Ninerfan1 Wrote:I comprehend logic and reason, which is why pretty much everything your write is greek to me.

I'm actually starting to pity you now.

I pitied you when I saw that you couldn't spell vacuum.

Quote:If a jury of people who do not know you can judge your actions worthy of death, than a woman has the right to chose whether or not to take a baby to term end of discussion.

It's "choose" not chose and there should be a period after the word term.

Quote:As for war, we have became a bunch of pansies. People die in wars that is the nature of the beast whether they ae guilty or innocent.

That should be "become" and I believe you meant "are." Though you did spell pansies correctly, which of course doesn't shock me.

Quote:It is a judgement call by someone on whether a being lives or dies plan and simple.

That would be "plain."

Quote:You want say "You can't kill a person except for when they are really really bad."

Think there should be a "to" there.

Let me know when you want to get sanctimonious about spelling and grammar again.
:ownd:

Ninerfan1 Wrote:Let me know when you want to get sanctimonious about spelling and grammar again.
:ownd:

And yet I still haven't seen you spell vacuum correctly. :stupid:

The Knight Time Wrote:This can all be summed up like this:

Abortion kills a life, kills a child, stops a beating human heart, and all of this happens without the child having a choice.

2917 more children were killed today.

If it was all about just spitting the little critter out of the womb, that would be one thing. That thing that comes out, however, grows and develops for the next 18 years or so, and either becomes a productive, useful member of society, or a burden on it. And if its not wanted in the first place, it has a much greater chance of not receiving the proper attention and parenting it needs to contribue to this world, and simply becomes a drain on societies' resources, diminishing the quality of life for not just itself, but for everyone. And sure people should be punished for their own irresponsibilty, but when that irresponsibilty drifts over and affects the lives of detached bystanders, its a problem and morally wrong.

We euthanize thousands of cute little post-natal puppies in this world each day merely because they are unwanted. None of these little animals had parents who had prehensile thumbs or the financial resources to afford condoms or open packages of birth control pills. Humans can, but don't. And if we can stomach with the huge amounts of animal euthanization that occurs, we should be able to stomach euthanize an unwanted or probably ultimately useless fetus once in a while.

Let's face it - the world has enough people. Most civilized nations are approaching a steady state with near zero growth rates. In third world countries, however, the populations are still increasing at an alarming rate. How much should the earth have to put up with? This 'don't kill your unborn child' was a good rule to live by in the olden days, when infant mortality rates were higher and life expectancies were shorter, but we've evolved past that point through modern medicine. We don't need to live by 2+ millenia old rules anymore.

uhmump95 Wrote:And yet I still haven't seen you spell vacuum correctly. :stupid:

You should really learn when to just let it go. That was pitiful. :snore:

Ninerfan1 Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:And yet I still haven't seen you spell vacuum correctly. :stupid:

You should really learn when to just let it go. That was pitiful. :snore:

And yet I still haven't seen you spell vacuum correctly. :stupid:

ooh ooh, I can spell vakum right. Oh @#%!$!!!

:rolleyes:

Bourgeois_Rage Wrote:ooh ooh, I can spell vakum right. Oh @#%!$!!!

:rolleyes:

:laugh: :laugh:

Bourgeois_Rage Wrote:ooh ooh, I can spell vakum right. Oh @#%!$!!!

:rolleyes:

Well obviously you can't!! Is that some affliction with this board?

uhmump95 Wrote:

ccs178 Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:First of all it is ignorant to assume all Democrats are liberals.  Second if there is an issue that taking Democrats out of the American mainstream, it is gay marriage.  The fact that Kerry was for it was a big reason why I did not vote for him.

Who did you vote for, if I may so inquire?

No one

Nice vote.....

If you don't vote, I say STFU. You don't have a right to *****. It's people like you who make me sick.

uhmump95 Wrote:You guys must be kidding with all these statements you are making about abortion. I have not heard of anyone who would advocate aborting a baby right before conception except maybe to save the life of the mother.

As for definitions or being alive how about these:
1. Able to breath without assistance (no breathing machines)
2. Able to receive nourishment and be aware of when you need to receive norurishment (a feedind tube would be okey if you are conscious, but for some reason you are not able to take nourishment orally)
3. Able to perceive and react to your environment.(being comatose may count if there is brain activity).

I am sure you can add more on your own, but let's just say that at 3 months (which is supposed to be the cutoff for abortions) a fetus cannot do any of those.

What do you think partial-birth abortion is? It is when they "kill" the baby right before it is actually "born."

blah Wrote:Nice vote.....

If you don't vote, I say STFU.  You don't have a right to *****.  It's people like you who make me sick.

I wasn't bitching about anything. I thought this thread was about abortion.

blah Wrote:What do you think partial-birth abortion is? It is when they "kill" the baby right before it is actually "born."

When is a partial birth abortion done? Are they done for health reason of the mother or lack of viability of the infant?

I stand by my first trimester stance on abortion. I feel an abortion after the first three monts is wrong unless for health reason etc....

blah Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:

ccs178 Wrote:

uhmump95 Wrote:First of all it is ignorant to assume all Democrats are liberals.  Second if there is an issue that taking Democrats out of the American mainstream, it is gay marriage.  The fact that Kerry was for it was a big reason why I did not vote for him.

Who did you vote for, if I may so inquire?

No one

Nice vote.....

If you don't vote, I say STFU. You don't have a right to *****. It's people like you who make me sick.

People like you bother me. We don't have to vote in this country. We have the freedom to vote or not to vote, and we all have the right to ***** as Americans. This you don't vote you don't get to complain is a cop out for people that can't come up with a better argument. I personally choose to vote, but don't think less of those that don't. Maybe they don't like any of the candiadates and don't have a blind loyalty to either party. Uninformed voting is a big problem in this country. With all of our technology, there is not reason not to know who you are voting for, but some still enter the booth and vote for the person whose name they recognize.

Hmmm, I don't know about the rest of you, but I distinguish between not voting because you are lazy or forgot (voter apathy) and not voting because there is no ideal candidate (voting for nobody).

My position is this, if you don't vote, I.e. take responsibility in how this country is to be ran, don't ***** when it doesn't go your way.

That is different than someone voting and their candidate doesn't win. At least they were responsible enough to perform their civic duty.