(12-05-2014 10:50 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:42 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 06:07 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 06:01 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 03:33 PM)_sturt_ Wrote:  Substance good. Makes one seem educated.

Attempts at humorous insults bad. Makes one seem like they have to look for a substitute for less education.

Not taking sides here. I think a lot of JMU. Just voicing a principle.

That is because you are not aware of the constant nonsense this guy spews about jmu on our board and every other board around that mentions jmu "facts" that are incredibly inaccurate and slanted toward trying to belittle and knock jmu. He pretends to know more about our school than guys who sit on our athletic board. It got old about two years ago. He is and always will be a drain.

Here is a challenge. Please provide links to support your assertions.
Otherwise, your personal attacks are are without merit and coming precariously to violation of the AUP.

Unbeleivable that you try to behind AUP.

You are a total troll. Trotting out 1/2 truths and claiming fact is trolling. You do it consistently, and have been since JMU came over here.

I will issue the same challenge to you that I issued the other JMU poster. Provide a link to support your allegations. Certainly if you dispute my data, ask for support and I will provide it. Better yet, provide refuting data. That will make for a lively discussion, eh?

Done this dance with you many times. I won't waste my time with you again. You are a troll, and you spend 10 hours a day on message boards.

What's worse? You are a mod, and you take pleasure in trolling jmu. I can point to tons of posts on the Odu board where you pat yourself on the back.

Point blank. You are what mods are supposed to stop. Instead, you promote it. AUP my ass.

To me Texas State is the only obvious candidate. CUSA has a great Tier 1 university in Louisiana being Louisiana Tech and does not need another school from this state. Georgia Southern would be my second choice. Great institution!

(12-05-2014 10:59 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:50 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 10:42 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 06:07 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 06:01 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  That is because you are not aware of the constant nonsense this guy spews about jmu on our board and every other board around that mentions jmu "facts" that are incredibly inaccurate and slanted toward trying to belittle and knock jmu. He pretends to know more about our school than guys who sit on our athletic board. It got old about two years ago. He is and always will be a drain.

Here is a challenge. Please provide links to support your assertions.
Otherwise, your personal attacks are are without merit and coming precariously to violation of the AUP.

Unbeleivable that you try to behind AUP.

You are a total troll. Trotting out 1/2 truths and claiming fact is trolling. You do it consistently, and have been since JMU came over here.

I will issue the same challenge to you that I issued the other JMU poster. Provide a link to support your allegations. Certainly if you dispute my data, ask for support and I will provide it. Better yet, provide refuting data. That will make for a lively discussion, eh?

Done this dance with you many times. I won't waste my time with you again. You are a troll, and you spend 10 hours a day on message boards.

What's worse? You are a mod, and you take pleasure in trolling jmu. I can point to tons of posts on the Odu board where you pat yourself on the back.

Point blank. You are what mods are supposed to stop. Instead, you promote it. AUP my ass.

OK then, let's look at the facts.
This post seems to be what got you guys going.

(12-05-2014 03:09 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 12:12 PM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  you guys continue to leave out one of the strongest and likeliest candidates out there.

but carry on with your bias and ignorance against us.

Ignorance?

Advantages for JMU include athletic budget, commitment to football, and most facilities.

Disadvantages:
-Location: JMU is in the east, CUSA needs west.
-Classification: JMU is FCS so to balance football would take two years.
-Market: JMU is in a micro TV market. Protestations aside, JMU alumni in the DC metro area amount to less than 1/2 of one percent of the population. That likely doesn't move the advertiser's meters. Not being in that DMA means no guaranteed broadcast rights and no carrier fees.
-Basketball: CUSA needs quality in the other revenue sport, men's basketball. JMU seemingly has little or no commitment to MBB, and has less than stellar basketball facilities.
-Type: Some posters have stated that CUSA has but two regional Universities, and as such should pursue National universities.
(I am not sure of the veracity of this.) JMU is a regional university.

We will address each one for factual content.

-Location. JMU is indeed in the east. Truth? half truth?

-Classification. JMU football is indeed FCS, and thus would take two years for transition. Truth? Half Truth?

-Market. JMU is in Harrisonburg, va. , the 178th television market
http://www.stationindex.com/tv/tv-markets-100 with a population of less than 50,000 https://suburbanstats.org/population/vir...rrisonburg Truth, half truth?
The total population of the DC metro in 2010 was 5,58 million. The total JMU alumni in metro DC is 30000 http://alumni.jmu.edu/s/1591/gid3-Alumni...&pgid=1186 That is about 1/2 of 1% Truth, half truth?
* Here is an interesting article about carrier fees as a second (to advertising) revenue source.
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/141097593.html

-Basketball. This is somewhat of a judgement, but most people I have talked to say the JMU MBB has not been good since Lefty Drisell left after the 1996/1997 season.
The JMU convocation center is old. Your own Carr report specified the necessity of replacing it for JMU to be more desireable to an FBS conference. The JMU Carr report link is posted on the CUSA site. Truth, Half Truth?

-Type- JMU is indeed a regional university http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreview...s/jmu-3721 Truth, half truth?

So, debate my conclusions, or offer refuting data. I have presented my data as fact, and supported it with links from commonly accepted sources.

I didn't even bring up JMU in this thread, Duke Dawg did.
ad hominem attacks are at best an admission of an inability to "hang"

still a drain. will never change.

cheers !

(12-06-2014 05:48 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  still a drain. will never change.

cheers !

That's "all you got"??
From a fanbase who, ad nauseum, turned it's nose up at the SBC for being beneath them academically; this is it?

Man, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

(12-05-2014 11:02 PM)Savacool Wrote:  To me Texas State is the only obvious candidate. CUSA has a great Tier 1 university in Louisiana being Louisiana Tech and does not need another school from this state. Georgia Southern would be my second choice. Great institution!

I don't know that Texas State adds more to the existing Texas CUSA schools than ULouisiana adds to LA Tech in LA. But it does seem more to the point which would have more supporters in the CUSA West, and which more opposition to their entry. If the three schools surrounding the Rajin Cajuns are opposed, that would be tough to overcome, and LA Tech, at least, seems to prefer being the only Louisinana school in CUSA.

Georgia Southern to UTEP is quite a long way to stretch out a division.

Three or so pages ago you said UMass was in a "good media market" but then use JMU's market against them. UMass's media market is 114 and has dropped five spots the last three years...

You're also going to have a hard time convincing me how much media markets matter when the ODU/Vandy game (DMA 29 v. DMA 40) pulled a whopping 0.0 with 63,000 viewers nationwide. I bet there's a ton of advertisers licking their chops over that action!

I would also anticipate a new convo announcement to accompany any new conference announcement, so I'm not concerned with that.

I will agree that our biggest problem this go 'round is geography. It makes sense for CUSA to add a western team. I would guess that the three top candidates are Texas St., ULL and USA. In addition to being fairly well established football programs, those could all serve as travel partners for somebody in Olympic sports (which I think is a bigger factor than some are giving credit for).

(12-06-2014 08:22 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:02 PM)Savacool Wrote:  To me Texas State is the only obvious candidate. CUSA has a great Tier 1 university in Louisiana being Louisiana Tech and does not need another school from this state. Georgia Southern would be my second choice. Great institution!

I don't know that Texas State adds more to the existing Texas CUSA schools than ULouisiana adds to LA Tech in LA. But it does seem more to the point which would have more supporters in the CUSA West, and which more opposition to their entry. If the three schools surrounding the Rajin Cajuns are opposed, that would be tough to overcome, and LA Tech, at least, seems to prefer being the only Louisinana school in CUSA.

Georgia Southern to UTEP is quite a long way to stretch out a division.

Once you reach the point of having to use a plane, the additional distance doesn't really matter.

(12-06-2014 08:25 AM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  Three or so pages ago you said UMass was in a "good media market" but then use JMU's market against them. UMass's media market is 114 and has dropped five spots the last three years...

You're also going to have a hard time convincing me how much media markets matter when the ODU/Vandy game (DMA 29 v. DMA 40) pulled a whopping 0.0 with 63,000 viewers nationwide. I bet there's a ton of advertisers licking their chops over that action!

I would also anticipate a new convo announcement to accompany any new conference announcement, so I'm not concerned with that.

I will agree that our biggest problem this go 'round is geography. It makes sense for CUSA to add a western team. I would guess that the three top candidates are Texas St., ULL and USA. In addition to being fairly well established football programs, those could all serve as travel partners for somebody in Olympic sports (which I think is a bigger factor than some are giving credit for).

I stand corrected on the Springfield/Holyke market. That is not a good market.
Rating of the ODU/Vandy game on ESPNU was horrific, however, as I have noted, the revenue from carrier fees mitigates that somewhat.

This is not the thread for detailed discussion of your convo but those details are available in the public domain. I hope you get an announcement soon, however, the restrictions on initial capital from donations could make that problematic for literally years, (or not), but right now you don't have it.

From a conference perspective, JMU could indeed be a travel partner for ODU, and likely that is higher than lower on the list of considerations.

IMO, the greatest hurdles for JMU to CUSA right now arre
1. being in the east
2. being FCS
3. very small television market

(12-05-2014 11:02 PM)Savacool Wrote:  To me Texas State is the only obvious candidate. CUSA has a great Tier 1 university in Louisiana being Louisiana Tech and does not need another school from this state. Georgia Southern would be my second choice. Great institution!

It's killing you isn't it.....Gawd it's fun to watch this one trick pony squirm

(12-06-2014 08:22 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:02 PM)Savacool Wrote:  To me Texas State is the only obvious candidate. CUSA has a great Tier 1 university in Louisiana being Louisiana Tech and does not need another school from this state. Georgia Southern would be my second choice. Great institution!

I don't know that Texas State adds more to the existing Texas CUSA schools than ULouisiana adds to LA Tech in LA. But it does seem more to the point which would have more supporters in the CUSA West, and which more opposition to their entry. If the three schools surrounding the Rajin Cajuns are opposed, that would be tough to overcome, and LA Tech, at least, seems to prefer being the only Louisinana school in CUSA.

Georgia Southern to UTEP is quite a long way to stretch out a division.

LA Tech and USM administrations are not opposed to Louisiana getting an invite. I have no info on how Rice feels but it would surprise me if they are opposed

(12-06-2014 09:46 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 08:25 AM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  Three or so pages ago you said UMass was in a "good media market" but then use JMU's market against them. UMass's media market is 114 and has dropped five spots the last three years...

You're also going to have a hard time convincing me how much media markets matter when the ODU/Vandy game (DMA 29 v. DMA 40) pulled a whopping 0.0 with 63,000 viewers nationwide. I bet there's a ton of advertisers licking their chops over that action!

I would also anticipate a new convo announcement to accompany any new conference announcement, so I'm not concerned with that.

I will agree that our biggest problem this go 'round is geography. It makes sense for CUSA to add a western team. I would guess that the three top candidates are Texas St., ULL and USA. In addition to being fairly well established football programs, those could all serve as travel partners for somebody in Olympic sports (which I think is a bigger factor than some are giving credit for).

I stand corrected on the Springfield/Holyke market. That is not a good market.
Rating of the ODU/Vandy game on ESPNU was horrific, however, as I have noted, the revenue from carrier fees mitigates that somewhat.

This is not the thread for detailed discussion of your convo but those details are available in the public domain. I hope you get an announcement soon, however, the restrictions on initial capital from donations could make that problematic for literally years, (or not), but right now you don't have it.

From a conference perspective, JMU could indeed be a travel partner for ODU, and likely that is higher than lower on the list of considerations.

IMO, the greatest hurdles for JMU to CUSA right now arre
1. being in the east
2. being FCS
3. very small television market

As Arkansas St fan has pointed out so well, media market is not and should not be the overriding deal breaker or maker. Brand is probably more important. If C-USA can find a decent football/basketball combo brand out there and they are willing, they should be invited. Personally I think 3 should be invited and I think if UMass would come with all sports, they would be one of the 3. I think they will decide to keep their bb in the A10 and the 3 to C-USA would be 2 in the west and 1 in the east. Several choices for each but not sure all of those choices would be willing to come, especially when the media money going forward is not known.

(12-06-2014 10:23 AM)swampbear Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 08:22 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:02 PM)Savacool Wrote:  To me Texas State is the only obvious candidate. CUSA has a great Tier 1 university in Louisiana being Louisiana Tech and does not need another school from this state. Georgia Southern would be my second choice. Great institution!

I don't know that Texas State adds more to the existing Texas CUSA schools than ULouisiana adds to LA Tech in LA. But it does seem more to the point which would have more supporters in the CUSA West, and which more opposition to their entry. If the three schools surrounding the Rajin Cajuns are opposed, that would be tough to overcome, and LA Tech, at least, seems to prefer being the only Louisinana school in CUSA.

Georgia Southern to UTEP is quite a long way to stretch out a division.

LA Tech and USM administrations are not opposed to Louisiana getting an invite. I have no info on how Rice feels but it would surprise me if they are opposed

If that's the case then ULL would certainly be one of the top choices. Not sure if the ULL admin is keen on a move though.

(12-06-2014 10:28 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 09:46 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 08:25 AM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  Three or so pages ago you said UMass was in a "good media market" but then use JMU's market against them. UMass's media market is 114 and has dropped five spots the last three years...

You're also going to have a hard time convincing me how much media markets matter when the ODU/Vandy game (DMA 29 v. DMA 40) pulled a whopping 0.0 with 63,000 viewers nationwide. I bet there's a ton of advertisers licking their chops over that action!

I would also anticipate a new convo announcement to accompany any new conference announcement, so I'm not concerned with that.

I will agree that our biggest problem this go 'round is geography. It makes sense for CUSA to add a western team. I would guess that the three top candidates are Texas St., ULL and USA. In addition to being fairly well established football programs, those could all serve as travel partners for somebody in Olympic sports (which I think is a bigger factor than some are giving credit for).

I stand corrected on the Springfield/Holyke market. That is not a good market.
Rating of the ODU/Vandy game on ESPNU was horrific, however, as I have noted, the revenue from carrier fees mitigates that somewhat.

This is not the thread for detailed discussion of your convo but those details are available in the public domain. I hope you get an announcement soon, however, the restrictions on initial capital from donations could make that problematic for literally years, (or not), but right now you don't have it.

From a conference perspective, JMU could indeed be a travel partner for ODU, and likely that is higher than lower on the list of considerations.

IMO, the greatest hurdles for JMU to CUSA right now arre
1. being in the east
2. being FCS
3. very small television market

As Arkansas St fan has pointed out so well, media market is not and should not be the overriding deal breaker or maker. Brand is probably more important. If C-USA can find a decent football/basketball combo brand out there and they are willing, they should be invited. Personally I think 3 should be invited and I think if UMass would come with all sports, they would be one of the 3. I think they will decide to keep their bb in the A10 and the 3 to C-USA would be 2 in the west and 1 in the east. Several choices for each but not sure all of those choices would be willing to come, especially when the media money going forward is not known.

Recent CUSA history does not support that. While not all inclusive (WKU and La Tech certainly the exceptions), I would be surprised if the powers-that-be have changed their attitudes.

Personally, I hope that MBB quality is a major criteria.

(12-06-2014 10:31 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 10:23 AM)swampbear Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 08:22 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(12-05-2014 11:02 PM)Savacool Wrote:  To me Texas State is the only obvious candidate. CUSA has a great Tier 1 university in Louisiana being Louisiana Tech and does not need another school from this state. Georgia Southern would be my second choice. Great institution!

I don't know that Texas State adds more to the existing Texas CUSA schools than ULouisiana adds to LA Tech in LA. But it does seem more to the point which would have more supporters in the CUSA West, and which more opposition to their entry. If the three schools surrounding the Rajin Cajuns are opposed, that would be tough to overcome, and LA Tech, at least, seems to prefer being the only Louisinana school in CUSA.

Georgia Southern to UTEP is quite a long way to stretch out a division.

LA Tech and USM administrations are not opposed to Louisiana getting an invite. I have no info on how Rice feels but it would surprise me if they are opposed

If that's the case then ULL would certainly be one of the top choices. Not sure if the ULL admin is keen on a move though.

They are as 'Keen" as they can possibly be....working hard at it

I would keep UAB and go with this setup

Football
East: WKU, Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, M Tn St, FA, FI
West: UTEP, UTSA, Rice, N texas, La Tech, S.Miss, X

Non-Football
Red: UTEP, UTSA, Rice, N Texas, X
White: La Tech, S.Miss, UAB, FA, FI
Blue: WKU, Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, M Tn St

Team x is from the pool of: Texas St, ULL, Ark state and NM state

(12-06-2014 10:28 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 09:46 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 08:25 AM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  Three or so pages ago you said UMass was in a "good media market" but then use JMU's market against them. UMass's media market is 114 and has dropped five spots the last three years...

You're also going to have a hard time convincing me how much media markets matter when the ODU/Vandy game (DMA 29 v. DMA 40) pulled a whopping 0.0 with 63,000 viewers nationwide. I bet there's a ton of advertisers licking their chops over that action!

I would also anticipate a new convo announcement to accompany any new conference announcement, so I'm not concerned with that.

I will agree that our biggest problem this go 'round is geography. It makes sense for CUSA to add a western team. I would guess that the three top candidates are Texas St., ULL and USA. In addition to being fairly well established football programs, those could all serve as travel partners for somebody in Olympic sports (which I think is a bigger factor than some are giving credit for).

I stand corrected on the Springfield/Holyke market. That is not a good market.
Rating of the ODU/Vandy game on ESPNU was horrific, however, as I have noted, the revenue from carrier fees mitigates that somewhat.

This is not the thread for detailed discussion of your convo but those details are available in the public domain. I hope you get an announcement soon, however, the restrictions on initial capital from donations could make that problematic for literally years, (or not), but right now you don't have it.

From a conference perspective, JMU could indeed be a travel partner for ODU, and likely that is higher than lower on the list of considerations.

IMO, the greatest hurdles for JMU to CUSA right now arre
1. being in the east
2. being FCS
3. very small television market

As Arkansas St fan has pointed out so well, media market is not and should not be the overriding deal breaker or maker. Brand is probably more important. If C-USA can find a decent football/basketball combo brand out there and they are willing, they should be invited. Personally I think 3 should be invited and I think if UMass would come with all sports, they would be one of the 3. I think they will decide to keep their bb in the A10 and the 3 to C-USA would be 2 in the west and 1 in the east. Several choices for each but not sure all of those choices would be willing to come, especially when the media money going forward is not known.

How many NCAA bids does CUSA get and what do they average per year roughly in NCAA BB credit pay outs. If they beat, match, or come close to the A-10 I think they jump for all sports if it is offered to keep their FB D-1A. They were leaving to much money on the table to join the MAC and a 1 NCAA bid league.

(12-06-2014 01:28 PM)panite Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 10:28 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 09:46 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 08:25 AM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  Three or so pages ago you said UMass was in a "good media market" but then use JMU's market against them. UMass's media market is 114 and has dropped five spots the last three years...

You're also going to have a hard time convincing me how much media markets matter when the ODU/Vandy game (DMA 29 v. DMA 40) pulled a whopping 0.0 with 63,000 viewers nationwide. I bet there's a ton of advertisers licking their chops over that action!

I would also anticipate a new convo announcement to accompany any new conference announcement, so I'm not concerned with that.

I will agree that our biggest problem this go 'round is geography. It makes sense for CUSA to add a western team. I would guess that the three top candidates are Texas St., ULL and USA. In addition to being fairly well established football programs, those could all serve as travel partners for somebody in Olympic sports (which I think is a bigger factor than some are giving credit for).

I stand corrected on the Springfield/Holyke market. That is not a good market.
Rating of the ODU/Vandy game on ESPNU was horrific, however, as I have noted, the revenue from carrier fees mitigates that somewhat.

This is not the thread for detailed discussion of your convo but those details are available in the public domain. I hope you get an announcement soon, however, the restrictions on initial capital from donations could make that problematic for literally years, (or not), but right now you don't have it.

From a conference perspective, JMU could indeed be a travel partner for ODU, and likely that is higher than lower on the list of considerations.

IMO, the greatest hurdles for JMU to CUSA right now arre
1. being in the east
2. being FCS
3. very small television market

As Arkansas St fan has pointed out so well, media market is not and should not be the overriding deal breaker or maker. Brand is probably more important. If C-USA can find a decent football/basketball combo brand out there and they are willing, they should be invited. Personally I think 3 should be invited and I think if UMass would come with all sports, they would be one of the 3. I think they will decide to keep their bb in the A10 and the 3 to C-USA would be 2 in the west and 1 in the east. Several choices for each but not sure all of those choices would be willing to come, especially when the media money going forward is not known.

How many NCAA bids does CUSA get and what do they average per year roughly in NCAA BB credit pay outs. If they beat, match, or come close to the A-10 I think they jump for all sports if it is offered to keep their FB D-1A. They were leaving to much money on the table to join the MAC and a 1 NCAA bid league.

C-USA is a one bid league most years. Of course we think that will change beginning with this season but the A10 is a multi-bid league, as I'm sure you know. So what UMass would need to look at is the total payout per school in each conference to see if they are comparable or if one is head and shoulders above the other. If the total conference payout is equitable, it may be worth their while to have a home for all sports, including football.

(12-06-2014 01:28 PM)panite Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 10:28 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 09:46 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(12-06-2014 08:25 AM)JMUDukeDawg Wrote:  Three or so pages ago you said UMass was in a "good media market" but then use JMU's market against them. UMass's media market is 114 and has dropped five spots the last three years...

You're also going to have a hard time convincing me how much media markets matter when the ODU/Vandy game (DMA 29 v. DMA 40) pulled a whopping 0.0 with 63,000 viewers nationwide. I bet there's a ton of advertisers licking their chops over that action!

I would also anticipate a new convo announcement to accompany any new conference announcement, so I'm not concerned with that.

I will agree that our biggest problem this go 'round is geography. It makes sense for CUSA to add a western team. I would guess that the three top candidates are Texas St., ULL and USA. In addition to being fairly well established football programs, those could all serve as travel partners for somebody in Olympic sports (which I think is a bigger factor than some are giving credit for).

I stand corrected on the Springfield/Holyke market. That is not a good market.
Rating of the ODU/Vandy game on ESPNU was horrific, however, as I have noted, the revenue from carrier fees mitigates that somewhat.

This is not the thread for detailed discussion of your convo but those details are available in the public domain. I hope you get an announcement soon, however, the restrictions on initial capital from donations could make that problematic for literally years, (or not), but right now you don't have it.

From a conference perspective, JMU could indeed be a travel partner for ODU, and likely that is higher than lower on the list of considerations.

IMO, the greatest hurdles for JMU to CUSA right now arre
1. being in the east
2. being FCS
3. very small television market

As Arkansas St fan has pointed out so well, media market is not and should not be the overriding deal breaker or maker. Brand is probably more important. If C-USA can find a decent football/basketball combo brand out there and they are willing, they should be invited. Personally I think 3 should be invited and I think if UMass would come with all sports, they would be one of the 3. I think they will decide to keep their bb in the A10 and the 3 to C-USA would be 2 in the west and 1 in the east. Several choices for each but not sure all of those choices would be willing to come, especially when the media money going forward is not known.

How many NCAA bids does CUSA get and what do they average per year roughly in NCAA BB credit pay outs. If they beat, match, or come close to the A-10 I think they jump for all sports if it is offered to keep their FB D-1A. They were leaving to much money on the table to join the MAC and a 1 NCAA bid league.

If UMass wouldn't move their basketball to the MAC to save their FBS football team, its unlikely they'd move it to CUSA, which without UAB, is at most a 2 bid league.

Seems that the majority of CUSA members are former Sunbelt members making CUSA now the Sunbelt 2. Same as most AAC members are former CUSA members and now CUSA 2. Just my take on it. The key point in time is when CUSA has to renew its TV contracts!